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14 years ago 0 224 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Myth or Fact

Hello everyone,

As promised I have done some searching and came upon a journal article which I thought was somewhat helpful, if not at least interesting (I'll include the citation at the bottom).

First of all, thanks for your response JGD84, actually in the article it did mention how panic is an escalating process and also how genetics do play a role (as found by looking at twin studies). So you are very much so correct.
 

This article, as Davit mentioned, talked about how neurotransmitters play an important role in the panic disorder. In this article the author talked about a study done by Antony and Swinson (researchers) who tried to induce panic in people by stimulating the nervous system, and they interestingly enough noted that although they can stimulate the nervous system to have a “panic attack”  not all people had an attack. Some people did not have an attack even when the nervous system was stimulated. In these cases, psychological factors played an important a role and more specifically the perceived control over the situation and the presence of a safe person (or rather having someone for social support). So in other words, these people were able to stop the panic attack from happening, even when their nervous system was stimulated, because they felt in control of the situation and because they had someone with them they trusted. I'm not sure if this answers your question Davit, can a panic attack be stopped by thoughts alone, it seems that in some people it is possible.

The article went on to talk about the staircase model as JGD84 mentioned, where normal physical sensations (such as a racing heart, dizziness) can be misinterpreted to indicate immediate danger. As a result of these misinterpretations the symptoms escalate and lead to even more misleading interpretations and catastrophic predictions.
 
Actual biological factors can play a role, for example the sensations that start the panic cycle, may be caused by too much caffeine, intense emotions, fatigue, hunger, hyperventilation or simply paying too close attention to bodily feelings.  According to the article, there are 70% of individuals who have reported that their panic attacks are triggered by a physical sensation, but often time people take this sensation and misinterpreted it as a sign of impeding disaster.

This article also talked about how pharmacotherapy and Cognitive Behaviour Therapy are both used for treating panic disorder, but it mentioned that evidence shows that CBT is more effective treatment for ensuring that gains are maintained over the long term.  CBT usually includes exposure to feared situations, exposure to exercises that trigger the feared sensations, cognitive therapy (where you consider evidence that contradicts fearful thinking, and relaxation based techniques. All of these are included in the program we have in the Panic Disorder center.
 
What I found interesting is that the article mentioned how for agoraphobic individuals exposure work is particularly useful, and that relaxation based techniques are thought to be less important than the exposure based and cognitive techniques.
 
 
 Not sure if this is helpful or not, I know it is a lot of information. Let me know what you think.
 
 
Luciana, Bilingual Health Educator


(Also, the citation is as follows: Antony, M.M. (2004). Panic Disorder. International Encyclopedia of the Social & Behavioral Sciences, Pages 11015-11020. I found the article through the York University's online resources center)


14 years ago 0 224 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Court tomorrow

Good luck Lisa,

Let us know how it goes. It's good to see that this time you are not as anxious as last time, and that you have some more confidence to go in with by being prepared.

Luciana, Bilingual Health Educator
14 years ago 0 224 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Dont get it

Good morning Lance,

It can obviously be frustrating to feel the way you do. Even though it may not seem like it at this moment, this will pass, and you will be able to continue on with your life, and you will be a much stronger person from getting through this all.

Sunny had some good ideas about being more active and maybe trying to walk places or even take the transit until you feel confident enough to drive. Members, do you have any other ideas for Lance?
 
 
 
Luciana, Bilingual Health Educator
14 years ago 0 224 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Food for thought

We thought this article might be fun to read and it does give some ideas on how you can cheer yourself up.

Have a read, and let us know what you think. Do you have any other ideas you can add to the list?

"In 1820 English writer Sydney Smith wrote a letter to an unhappy friend, Lady Morpeth, in which he offered her tips for cheering up.  Most of Smith's suggestions are as sound now as they were almost 200 years ago – though a few are amusingly odd, and it might be tougher today to work "good blazing fires" into everyday life.
 
1st. Live as well as you dare.
2nd. Go into the shower-bath with a small quantity of water at a temperature low enough to give you a slight sensation of cold, 75 or 80 degrees.
3rd. Amusing books.
4th. Short views of human life€”not further than dinner or tea.
5th. Be as busy as you can.
6th. See as much as you can of those friends who respect and like you.
7th. And of those acquaintances who amuse you.
8th. Make no secret of low spirits to you friends, but talk of them freely€”they are always worse for dignified concealment.
9th. Attend to the effects tea and coffee produce upon you.
10th. Compare your lot with that of other people.
11th. Don’t expect too much from human life€”a sorry business at the best.
12th. Avoid poetry, dramatic representations (except comedy), music, serious novels, melancholy, sentimental people, and everything likely to excite feeling or emotion, not ending in active benevolence.
13th. Do good, and endeavour to please everybody of every degree.
14th Be as much as you can in the open air without fatigue.
15th. Make the room where you commonly sit gay and pleasant.
16th. Struggle by little and little against idleness.
17th. Don’t be too severe upon yourself, or underrate yourself, but do yourself justice.
18th. Keep good blazing fires.
19th. Be firm and constant in the exercise of rational religion.
20th. Believe me, dear Lady Georgiana."

Source: Rubin, G. The Happiness Project. Tips for cheering yourself up--from 1820. Posted July 19 2006. Available online: http://www.happiness-project.com/happiness_project/2006/07/index.html.  Accessed: December 14 2009.
Luciana, Bilingual Health Educator
14 years ago 0 224 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Dont get it

It seems to me that the driving is really important to you right now. You mentioned that driving for you means that you would be able to make more money, and it would also provide the means to see your children.

How have you been doing with the driving exercises? Even if you have not done any exposure work in a while, where was it that you last left off? 

Luciana, Bilingual Health Educator
14 years ago 0 224 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Feeling out of it

Hello Caro,
 
Davit and JGD84 had some good suggestions for how to focus on your work.
 
Have you read through the Relaxation section of the program? It describes some of the techniques mentioned (box breathing, and also progressive muscle relaxation). Perhaps by bringing your attention back to your bodily sensations, you may be able to get rid of that out of body feeling.
 
 
Are you working through big sections of the workbook at a time? Maybe breaking it down into smaller bit could be more manageable.

Let us know how you are doing and what worked or did not work for you.
 
 
 

Luciana, Bilingual Health Educator
14 years ago 0 224 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi just new to the site

Hello ladybird and welcome to our forum.
 
You have come to the right place as there are many people within this support group that share the same questions and concerns as you.  Hopefully here you will find the support you need.
 
Have you had a chance to go through any of the supportive tests? If you take a look under "TOOLS" you will find many tests, which although not diagnostic tools, they can be helpful as they prepare you with information that you can present to your doctor on your next visit, or to just help you get a better understanding of what is going on.

We also have developed a Panic Program.  This program is 12-weeks and each session is based on the previous session. This website also has a "Blog" option which you can see as a daily journal to share your everyday experiences with us if you want.

Keep posting, and come back often when you feel like you need support, or just want to vent about what is going on.
 
 
 

Luciana, Bilingual Health Educator
14 years ago 0 224 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
The Last Resort

Hi Tam,
 
First of all, I am glad to see that you are doing something about your anxiety and that you are trying different ways to overcome it.

You mentioned that you have come a long way without the use of medication and you are not sure whether or not you want to make a decision of going on it or not at this time. What has helped you cope with everything up until now?
 
You said how you are afraid that the medication will make you feel worse rather than better. Before you make any decisions make sure to discuss all of the possible side effects and outcomes with your doctor. Perhaps this will make the decision easier for you.

Let us know what you are feeling and what you think is the best decision to make for you.
 
David has some useful ideas, members can you add anything else of your own?



 


Luciana, Bilingual Health Educator
14 years ago 0 224 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
OCD ritual cycle

Hello,

You mentioned that you were able to overcome counting cracks or things a certain amount of times as a child. What helped you overcome this then? Maybe some of the strategies you used then, could also be helpful now as an adult.
 
I know that CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) has been proved to be most significant for treating OCD habits. You could try applying this to your work. You mentioned that you like to check things when you are done since you are afraid that something bad will happen. What do you think will happen if you don't check your work? What is this fear specifically? If you can identify the fear, you can try to work using CBT techniques to change the thought process in itself.

As for the stuffy nose, I would wait to see if the sniffing goes away once your sinus infection is completely cleared.


Members, what have you found helpful when dealing with ritual habits?




Luciana, Bilingual Health Educator
14 years ago 0 224 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Cymbalta

Hello JGD84, glad to see that you are happier with your new medication choices. Keep us updated and let us know how you are doing.


Members what have your experiences been with Cymbalta?



Luciana, Bilingual Health Educator