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11 years ago 0 1140 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Prepared For The Worst?

This is a good thread. Good idea to anticipate triggering scenarios. At the moment, I'm not sure what scenario creates the greatest "slip" hazard for me.
 
I just got back from vacation, and there was a lot of partying. My travel companions were not smokers, but a lot of folks at the bars and on the street were. It was kind of a good thing, since I got lots of practice at drinking without smoking. By the end, I wasn't thinking about cigs when I drank. So maybe a good prevention is to drink too much for several days!    
 
I think the weight gain thing might be a problem. This is something i need to manage with exercise, as the deep breathing is also kind of a replacement for inhaling smoke. ...'Cept there's a whole lot less coughing.  
 
I think the most difficult scenario for me so far is when I overeat (also a weight related thing). I used to relieve some of the discomfort of an overly full stomach with a cigarette. Now, I just have to deal with it and/ or take a walk.  
11 years ago 0 1140 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Just One...

I know the answer I'v given to myself. I'll try to summarize it for you the best I can:
 
"The first cigarette will not give me the feeling I am seeking. I know this from my understanding of the nicotine addiction.
 
In the past, when I had nicotine in my system, "just one" cigarette was taken at a time in order to maintain a certain level of nicotine in my system. That would be my maintenance or "nicotine normal" level. When nicotine levels dropped, I needed to re-fuel, just one cigarette at a time. 
 
Now that i have no more nicotine in my system, there is no need to re-fuel/ adjust nicotine levels back to "normal." The drug is out of my system. Therefore, any craving I'm having is purely behavioral/ psychological. There is no physical need for nicotine. (I can also emphasize this point with myself by thinking about taking a nicotine lozenge instead. When I think about doing that, it doesn't have the same allure as a cigarette. Hmmm. So this must be more about behavioral associations than real physical cravings, right?) 
 
There is, however, a critical point to remember:  The minute I take a puff from a cigarette or a suck off a lozenge, my physical addiction is then re-activated.
 
Not only that, but the first puff or suck will not be satisfying. Why is that? Because there is no physical withdrawal to relieve. My "satisfaction" in the past was a sense of relief from physical withdrawal. Taking a puff in a non-addicted state relieves nothing. Instead, I will cough and get a head-rush. Only later, when the nicotine level from that one cigarette starts to drop off, will it be possible to get the sense of "aaah" from a cigarette. At that point, I am re-igniting the addiction and relieving its pangs "just one" cigarette at a time....to the tune of about 20 per day.
 
So it's really not about "just one." It's about the next one. And the next. And the next.
 
So why not save yourself some trouble and skip it altogether? " 
11 years ago 0 1140 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Sorry my friends, a minor slipped

2 comments:
 
1) Talk about perfect timing with the ex-wife! There are few better motivations than proving an ex wrong.
2)  I suspect that any physical withdrawal will be short and sweet, since there were only a few puffs involved. (In fact, it's probably out of your system already, as I write this.)  Don't give in to the urge to re-fuel and just keep on trucking. 
3) If you "slip" again, I'd say it's a re-start. 'Course, only you can be the judge of your own progress.  
11 years ago 0 1140 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi I?m new here!

Hi and welcome aboard. I wish you success and a good experience on this journey you are beginning.
 
Your post raises so many thoughts for me. Hopefully, I don't get too long-winded. (I've always been that way, but I suspect I've got even more wind these days, since I've quit smoking. )  
 
First, an answer to your question ("did any of you feel the same way?"). Yes, I absolutely felt the same way. I had a very deep behavioral/ psychological attachment to cigarettes that I feel was much more complicated than the physical addiction. I had a great deal of fear, anxiety and even sadness/ grief over letting go of that "last cigarette". Even now, I would say that the psychological attachment took me much longer to break; it took me 4 months to work towards that last cigarette, whereas it only took me 3 days to physically detox from nicotine at the end. (The physical detox will not take any more than 3 days with you, either. Once I learned that fact, I was much less upset about going through it.) Honestly, I would also say that I'd still be smoking if I thought I could do it without consequences. However, as you progress in your quit, you will find many positive consequences to quitting. You will very quickly notice improvements in your senses of taste and smell, skin condition, your own odors/ smells, breathing quality, etc. And the long term consequences in terms of life and quality of life add up quickly, too. 
 
I used nicotine replacement therapy (nicotine lozenges) while I was working on the mental and behavioral changes. In fact, I worked at it one "trigger" at a time, replacing certain cigarettes with lozenges for a few weeks before moving on to the next set. This method is very much NOT recommended in anything I have read, including the inserts on the boxes of lozenges; you are not supposed to smoke while also using the nicotine replacement products. However, I had so much fear about losing all my smokes at once that I did it that way. In retrospect, it would have been physically easier to quit all at once. But I don't know if I would have been able to handle that big of a behavioral transition at once. Either way, I'm quit now, so it really doesn't matter how I got here. (Someday, you will also congratulate yourself for getting there, regardless of how you go about it.  )
 
So, here are some suggestions to help you get ready for your quit:
1) Read about different approaches and methods. We all do this a little bit differently. You need to find an approach that will work for you.  
2) Check out the other tools on this site. There are areas to to read and learn.
   a) There are "milestones" to complete. These are to be done as you progress through your quit. Right now, you could read through the first one, which I think is about getting ready to    quit.
   b) There is also an area where you can blog (either publicly or privately) about your feelings about the quit.
   c) The cravings diary is also a tool I have found to be very useful. I wish I had started it earlier than I did, so I could judge my progress better. I do know that it really helps with my    perspective to see how much and how rapidly the desire to smoke has gone down. 
   d) Look at other peoples' quit meters. Notice how much life they are gaining and how much money they are saving. Start looking forward to that day when you set your own quit    meter and get to watch those numbers add up.
 
There are some very good and supportive people on here right now. I'm sure they will also jump in with more insights and ideas. Good luck to you. I look forward to seeing you around.  
 
11 years ago 0 1140 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
The Dream of Smoking!

Hi,
 
I have had several relapse dreams, and they all end as yours did. I was upset that I had smoked. I didn't like it.  I felt nasty. I worried about how I smelled. I worried about going through detox again. Ultimately, this is why I gave away the last of my cigarettes (5 whole packs) that I had been keeping around to maintain a personal sense of control; I had a dream that I had smoked, and got worried that I actually had done it in the night! 
 
From what I have heard from friends who have quit, this is pretty common.  My best friend, who has been quit for over 5 years, says she still occasionally has one of these, and it always ends with, "Oh, $h--, now I have to start quitting all over again." Another friend said her husband would have the dream, wake up, and search the trash for butts, wrappers etc. to make sure it wasn't real. 
 
Amazing how powerful of a hold this thing has/ had over our psyches, eh? And it sure is nice to know that it's just a dream. 
11 years ago 0 1140 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Day 5 but Who?s Counting!

Hi dori, and congratulations on beginning your quit.
 
I don't know how much you smoked before or what your Dr. has recommended, but that seems like a lot of nicotine replacement. Hopefully, you aren't getting more nicotine than before you quit. In order to be sure how much to use and how to slowly taper it off, you might want to consult with a medical specialist. I only used one product (lozenges), and it was still a bit confusing for me to figure out what was going on with nicotine levels.
 
A health educator here did help by finding out how much nicotine was in one lozenge, so I could do some calculations for myself. Health educators, do you guys have answers for dori?
11 years ago 0 1140 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Random reason Number _____:

Since I've quite, I've had various random "Oh, wow. I'm so glad I quit smoking!" moments. These aren't necessarily the biggies, like longer life/ freedom from debilitating illness. They are just little things I notice at points. So, I thought we could start a thread of random reasons we're glad we quit/ are quitting. Just to keep it fun, we can give them random numbers, too.
 
I'll start. Random reason Number 42:  It's mother-f---ing hot outside today, and I'm glad I don't have to go out there to smoke. 
11 years ago 0 1140 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Ha!

I'm feeling pretty good. I don't think about cigarettes very often during the day and have had some days in which I didn't think about smoking at all. My voice seems to be going through some changes. Not sure what  that's all about, but it's not painful or disturbing, so que sera. I have gained weight. Now that my vacation is over, I need to move on getting the gym membership going. It's way too hot where I live to exercise outside right now. 
 
Overall, quitting isn't nearly as traumatic as I'd anticipated.  And it sure is nice to not be interrupted 20 times/ day with the need for a cigarette. 
11 years ago 0 1140 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Mmmm Fresh and Clean:)

Yes, that was one of the most immediate effects I noticed. I got into smelling myself (hair and clothes especially) for a while. ...And yes, I know that's kind of nutty. 
11 years ago 0 1140 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Triggers we all know to well what they are!

Hey JMK,
 
I noticed the time-warp thing with the craves, too.
 
Not only that, but I kept getting random time warps that had nothing to do with craves. It would be like a 30 second interaction with someone would seem like it went all slow motion for 5-10 minutes or something. It was a very surreal feeling, and I kept wondering if others thought I was acting weird. 
 
Those times did occur less and less over the course of the first few weeks. I haven't had one for several weeks now. I almost forgot about it, until I saw this post.
 
...So, yes, it's normal, and yes, it will go away. (Bummer, since the ones without the craves were actually kind of fun.  )