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Stress. Part II

if we can look into the reason why we are stressed, then we don't have to worry about the manifestations of stress.
This is from The power of now by ET:

As soon as you honor the present moment, all unhappiness and struggle dissolve, and life begins to flow with joy and ease. When you act out of present-moment awareness, whatever you do becomes imbued with a sense of quality, care, and love - even the most simple action. So do not be concerned with the fruit of your action - just give attention to the action itself. The fruit will come of its own accord. This is a powerful spiritual practice. In the Bhagavad Gita, one of the oldest and most beautiful spiritual teachings in existence, non-attachment to the fruit of your action is called Karma Yoga. It is described as the path of "consecrated action."
 
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Back again

This is from book called alcoholics anonymous: (from the doctors opinion section):
 
Men and women drink essentially because they like the effect produced by alcohol. The sensation is so elusive that, while they admit it is injurious, they cannot after a time differentiate the true from the false. To them, their alcoholic life seems the only normal one. They are restless, irritable and discontented, unless they can again experience the sense of ease and comfort which comes at once by taking a few drinks drinks which they see others taking with impunity. After they have succumbed to the desire again, as so many do, and the phenomenon of craving develops, they pass through the well-known stages of a spree, emerging remorseful, with a firm resolution not to drink again. This is repeated over and over, and unless this person can experience an entire psychic change there is very little hope of his recovery.
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love wine toooo much!

Un-fortunately, those are the symptoms of an alcoholic. This is called the physical craving (that is once you put 1 glass of alcohol, the body craves for more). Try to quit  for 6 months. Either the obsession will lead you back to a drink (and then you physical craving will follow the moment you start drinking that 1 glass of wine) or you will feel restless, irritable and discontented.
 
 

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love wine toooo much!

This from book called AA (from more about alcoholism):
 
Here are some of the methods we have tried: Drinking beer only, limiting the number of drinks, never drinking alone, never drinking in the morning, drinking only at home, never having it in the house, never drinking during business hours, drinking only at parties, switching from scotch to brandy, drinking only natural wines, agreeing to resign if ever drunk on the job, taking a trip, not taking a trip, swearing off forever (with and without a solemn oath), taking more physical exercise, reading inspirational books, going to health farms and sanitariums, accepting voluntary commitment to asylums we could increase the list infinitum.
 
The idea that somehow, someday he would control and enjoy his drinking is the greatest obsession of every abnormal drinker. There persistence of this illusion is astonishing. Many pursue it into the gates of insanity or death.
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love wine toooo much!

"Moderation is my goal."
 
Absolutely. Good luck with your goal. Am sure other members who have had success will be able to help you.
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Understanding Alcohol Withdrawal

3rd try sorry:
 
Thanks Luciana. From an alcoholics perspective we need to add obsession of the mind. That is one of the reasons, a person repeatedly slips even after repeated trips to Treatment centers. Also, it is a progressive condition. People think they can better alcohol after prolonged absence. There is a nice story in the book called AA:

A man of thirty was doing a great deal of spree drinking. He was very nervous in the morning after these bouts and he quieted himself with more liquor. He was ambitious to succeed in business, but saw that he would get nowhere if he drank at all. Once he started, he had no control whatever. He made up his mind that until he had been successful in business and had retired, he would not touch another drop. An exceptional man, he remained bone dry for twenty-five years and retired at the age of fifty five, after a successful and happy business career. Out came his carpet slippers and a bottle. In two months he was in a hospital, puzzled and humiliated. He tried to regulate his drinking for a while, making several trips to the hospital meantime. Then, gathering all his forces, he attempted to stop altogether and found he could not. Every means of solving his problem which money could buy was at his disposal. Every attempt failed. Though a robust man at retirement, he went to pieces quickly and was dead within four years.
 

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Your Life

If, when you honestly want to, you find you cannot quit entirely, or if when drinking, you have little control over the amount you take, you are probably alcoholic. If that be the case, you may be suffering from an illness which only a spiritual experience will conquer.
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Your Life

I exactly know how you feel. its the obsession of the mind that leads us to the first drink and then there is something called the phenomenon of craving that keeps up drinking and we get drunk. We always think of taking 1 or 2 drinks. But once we put those, we are off to the races.  But the problem with drunks is there for the mind. We need to have a spiritual awakening. A psychic change Dr. Silkworth calls it.
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Your Life

The ability to overcome this disease depends on the extent to which we have abused the body. Unfortunately most of go well past the stage where only a spiritual solution is the only hope.
 
This is from the book called Alcoholics Anonymous:

But what about the real alcoholic? He may start off as a moderate drinker; he may or may not become a continuous hard drinker; but at some stage of his drinking career he begins to lose all control of his liquor consumption, once he starts to drink.

Here is a fellow who has been puzzling you, especially in his lack of control. He does absurd, incredible, tragic things while drinking. He is a real Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. He is seldom mildly intoxicated. He is always more or less insanely drunk. His disposition while drinking resembles his normal nature but little. He may be one of the finest fellows in the world. Yet let him drink for a day, and he frequently becomes disgustingly, and even dangerously anti-social. He has a positive genius for getting tight at exactly the wrong moment, particularly when some important decision must be made or engagement kept. He is often perfectly sensible and well balanced concerning everything except liquor, but in that respect he is incredibly dishonest and selfish. He often possesses special abilities, skills, and aptitudes, and has a promising career ahead of him. He uses his gifts to build up a bright outlook for his family and himself, and then pulls the structure down on his head by a senseless series of sprees. He is the fellow who goes to bed so intoxicated he ought to sleep the clock around. Yet early next morning he searches madly for the bottle he misplace the night before. If he can afford it, he may have liquor concealed all over his house to be certain no one gets his entire supply away from him to throw down the wastepipe. As matters grow worse, he begins to use a combination of high-powered sedative and liquor to quiet his nerves so he can go to work. Then comes the day when he simply cannot make it and gets drunk all over again. Perhaps he goes to a doctor who gives him morphine or some sedative with which to taper off. Then he begins to appear at hospitals and sanitariums.

 

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Desperately need to quit or cut down

I need help and am too embarrassed to go to AA.
 
Would you atleast consider reading the book called AA online? The IV edition is available online free if you google it you will find them. There is doctors opinion, There is a Solutions chapter....More about alcoholism..... that will atleast help you identify with alcoholism.