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I hate intros ...

I stumbled across this site while looking for some answers. I've not had time yet to get in and read the forums, but intend to do that after I post my intro. I'm a 48 y.o. woman, have fibromyalgia, am on disability, and I've slid down into that dark place I thought I'd never see again. I sobered up more than 20 years ago and have had bouts of depression off and on since, although nothing like the drinking days when I was suicidal. This is the worst I've felt since those days. After being diagnosed with fibro 8 years ago, I went about my life pretty much denying that the disorder affected me. I ended up burning myself out so badly that I will probably not work again. For a "Type A" personality that's a tough row to hoe! I'm also OCD. Counting counting counting ... I drive myself nuts. I also am a hoarder. Thankfully that one is beginning to get better. I'm no longer collecting new things, but I am having trouble getting rid of the old stuff. Part of it is being physically unable to do a major clean, part of it is the anxiety that happens when I start trying to throw stuff away. LOL ... that pretty much covers the bad news. Now the good news ... I'm in an amazing relationship, my partner has a similar physical disorder so we suit one another well that way and understand what the other is going through. She's wonderful. We have a Jack Russell Terror who keeps us moving, even on days when we don't think we can. I am generally an optimist. No matter how bad my days are, I'm not in Dafur or some third world country where I have to scramble for the basic needs in life. The old "it could be worse" saw does go a long way toward helping me keep some perspective. Most of the time, at least. Each and every day I find something to be grateful for. No exceptions. That has been my pledge and my habit for over a decade. There are days when it's tough, days when I want to sit in a corner and pout, days when I want to cry and just give up, but even in the dark times I find something good. Sometimes it's just that I'm still breathing. I usually get some counselling when I feel like I have this past year, but I've got to the point that I rarely leave the house except to walk the dog or get groceries. I've totally cut myself off from all social interaction and just cannot seem to get back into it. Part of that is having a very good relationship that fulfills the majority of my social needs ... part of it is being too sick most times to be able to plan ahead ... part of it is just being too tired physically and emotionally to be a good friend ... part of it is just not having the energy to find a counsellor and keep the appointments. Since most of my social interaction is online, I thought this program might be the perfect push I need to get back to being me. Talking to like-minded people is a huge help. It's not so much that misery loves company, but more that only the miserable know how valuable a spark of light can be in the dark times. Hopefully I'll be able to both see some of those bright spots and provide some for others. Oh yah ... I'm long winded too. :) I'm a writer so it's an occupational hazard.
16 years ago 0 63 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
I hate intros ...

Wow ... you all are quick on the welcome! Thanks so much. :) I'm still figuring out how everything works here, but am looking forward to the IM visits. Right now I'm just wandering around, trying to get to know everyone. Wildcat ... I do look forward to hearing about your OCD. I didn't even realize I had the problem until about 3 years ago. Can you believe I went through all those years without realizing that not everyone hoards or counts things over and over? :p Again, thanks for the warm welcome.
16 years ago 0 63 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Frustration

Hi Maggie ... Since I'm very fortunate in the relationship department, I can't comment on that at all. I find men so mystifying that I don't even bother to try to understand them! They really do think so differently than women. I feel lucky to be in a relationship with a woman so at least we speak the same language. ;p What I do find amazing is that you manage to cope with a relationship, children, a job ... I cannot imagine having to do that while depressed. That you simply make it through the days is something positive to hold on to. From the little I've read, it seems there are a lot of parents here. Hats off to you all. I don't have children (never wanted any) but even raising a Jack Russell is fertile ground for a bumper crop of the guilts. I feel so awful when she doesn't get her exercise or the attention or whatever. I cannot beging to envision how hard it would be to feel like that with kids. I guess the wider your world, the more chances there are for setbacks. On the bright side, though, the wider your world, the more opportunity for joy and the greater number of things to appreciate.
16 years ago 0 63 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Templates for schedules?

I looked around and wasn't able to find a template to use for my Session 1, Activity Schedule that I could use on the computer. The PDF file is fine if printed, but I do everything on the comp. I have done up a simple template if anyone wants a copy of it. It works for MS Word, but I can probably format it in different ways. I don't know if this is something I ought to offer here, but as a hoarder the last thing in the world I need is a bunch more paper. The more I do on my computer, the fewer piles I have stacked around my desk. The files don't collect dust, at least. :) I'm only beginning so have only done the first template, but will be doing them as I go. Also, is there a Private Message function here at this board? I was going to PM a moderator to ask before posting this but couldn't find the option. Don't want to overstep, ya know, being a noobie and all.
16 years ago 0 63 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Templates for schedules?

Thanks so much DL ... I did find the link and have sent a message. :)
16 years ago 0 63 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Are you afraid of experiencing a setback?

I've just started, got through Session 1, then immediately crashed and burned. Obviously this program is working for me! I haven't done anything for a couple of days now, not even kept up my activity schedule. As soon as I started working this, I ended up with insomnia ... all kinds of dreams about moving, which for me are nightmares. I realized it's about my hoarding. It's almost like my OCD knows it's met its match. Although I'm feeling very, very off, I must say I'm also feeling incredibly encouraged by this setback. If I were able to sail through any of it without having some kind of reaction, I'd know I wasn't doing it right. My habits are deeply ingrained and rooting around in that part of my mind stirs up some unpleasant stuff. So yep, I'm having a setback the very first week. I was all pissed off about it until I stopped to really think about what was going on. Now I'm just going to work around it. I decided that I won't move on to Session 2 until I have 7 days worth of activity schedules completed. That means it will take as long as it takes, and that is really rubbing my fur the wrong way. Being something of a perfectionist, I want to do one session per week, do it right, and tolerate nothing less. All part of the OCD, I know, but that doesn't mean the feelings are any less intense for the knowing. I was lucky enough to enjoy a chat this morning with someone from here. That helped. Instead of feeling like I was muddling through on my own, the simple contact made this place feel more real to me. I am certain that as I get to know folks better I will find these forums a life saver.
16 years ago 0 63 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
OCD Sucks

As part of my commitment to this board, I've decided to post something every day that I can. Today I need to talk about my OCD. I have two kinds ... counting (drives me batsh*t!), and hoarding (drives both Shell and I nuts). It's odd, but I can be going along, thinking I'm having a good day, then I realize I'm counting everything. Steps. Brush strokes. Breaths. Items. When that happens, I have finally learned to stop, sit quietly and figure out what's going on. Invariably I've got something lurking around under the surface and stressing me out. The more stressed, the greater the need to count. If I don't count, I feel this sense of doom. It's not like I have any consequence in mind (usually), but just a general sense of something bad about to happen. And sometimes that all goes on unconsciously until I realize that I'm doing it. Today I'm tackling a bit of my hoarding. I've learned that doing anything big is out of the question. I get paralyzed and am unable to make the smallest decisions. Now I go at it one small area at a time. Today it will be the bathroom. And when I break things down into small bits, I am able to be ruthless about throwing stuff away and experience a minimum of anxiety. Little steps. That goes against my nature as well. I'm the type who usually goes at anything I do like I'm killing snakes. It's all or nothing. That thinking has led me to the clutter I live in. If I can't do the whole house in one go, I don't do anything. I watched some talk show and the suggestion of breaking things down into either areas or time units was the one most valuable thing I took away. I also have finally come to the realization that I'm not just a slob. The truth is I love a clean house. I love a clutter free world. It does bother me a great deal ... especially since I have a thing about germs in any area I eat. Hoarding is not my fault, but it is my responsibility. I do have control. I can choose to let it continue to run my life, make my home so embarrassing I won't allow anyone in, make me feel bad about myself -- or I can start tackling it a little at a time. I didn't get this way overnight. I'm not going to get better overnight either. I will clear the clutter the same way I collected it, and there's some kind of balance to that thought. It's not so much like "fixing" myself as growing out of something that doesn't work for me anymore. Ok ... 'nuff ranting for today. :) Knowing there are folks here who get what I'm talking about is unexpectedly soothing. I've been to tons of therapists -- good ones! -- but have never been involved in a group where others truly understand. This is new to me and I love it.
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Positive Thought for Today

Being consciously grateful for something in my life is a habit I've acquired over the last 2 decades. I have been sober over 20 years, and early on I learned that I absolutely had to have an "attitude of gratitude" if I were going to succeed at not drinking. If I neglect to do this, I've learned it can sink me into a depression in a very short time. If I'm already depressed, not remembering the good stuff makes life unbearable. Maybe others do the same thing? If you have something positive in your world, share with everyone. Good feelings seem to be as contagious as miserable ones. :) Today I'm grateful for living in a time when medicine and technology make recovery from depression possible. In my Mom's time, you just bucked up and kept on taking care of the kids, smiling at PTA meetings, and dying inside. Having the medicine I have, the doctor who understands and supports me, a partner who loves and understands me, and this online support, means I have a shot at feeling better. I don't have to suffer for decades. I may feel crappy, but dammit it could be a whole lot worse ... I could be a '50s housewife relying on Valium or martinis to survive the bleak, black times.
16 years ago 0 63 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
OCD Sucks

Thanks, Brenna. Truth is that there are a lot of times I have to pep talk myself into the attitude. Often, these days. :confuse: I had to learn the difference between being a jerk to myself with negative self talk and self recrimination and being firm with myself. Keeping the inner talk positive while pushing myself to do the small steps is what works for me. I know that's not how everyone does it, but I found I either held a whip over my own head constantly or totally indulged myself in dispair. Learning when to apply self discipline, when to just do things and learning when I need to be indulgent, is my biggest battle. The more depressed I feel, the more mixed up those two things become for me. I dunno if that makes sense or not. I'm still new to understanding the OCD aspect of my life. It's been something I've done as long as I can remember -- from early childhood. It's just part of who I am, I thought. Identifying when I'm acting out of OCD is still sometimes surprising to me. Being in that "aha!" stage does help, I must admit. I can't change something if I can't identify it. At the same time, though, I realize I'm a three ring circus mentally. Yi. Some days it looks like a very huge mountain to climb. lol ... Ok, I've read this over three times so it's ok to pusth the reply button. OCD? Who, me?
16 years ago 0 63 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
spirits

Wildcat ... "Regardless of who has my back... I am still exposed." When I read that, it brought tears to my eyes. I so get that! I lived most of my life that way. The good news? It can change. I'm finally at a place where there are times and places I feel fully safe. Not always, but often enough to heal. I also identified with the "darkness" comment. I was also an abused kid and grew up to be like that myself. I spent years fearing my own darkness and part of my alcohol recovery centred around "no hitting" as well as "no drinking". That part of me shamed and terrified me. I had become the father I hated. I grew up being angry and aggressive. Out of fear, I attacked first. Just as an abused dog will bite any hand that comes toward it, whether to stroke or strike, I was like that with people. Of course it didn't show on the outside ... I was a happy party girl. You just didn't cross me. I guess in that way I can kind of identify with your father -- as I can identify with my own. My father beat us. Broken furniture, blood on the walls ... you know the scene, I'm sure. Your willingness to sit with his spirit and to sort through the feelings is brave beyond words. My heart goes out to you. I do believe, without doubt, that spirit lives on until the work is finished. When I found my brother dead, I sat with the body until the police, coroner, etc arrived. While I sat with him, I realized his body was empty, but the essence of who he was, his spirit, was there with me. It wasn't some abstract idea, something I could choose to believe or not ... it was as real as wind in my face. You can't see or touch the wind either, but you certainly feel it. My brother's spirit was like that. It was his need to tell me he was okay where he was. Without that I don't know how I would have got past the experience. It was as if he knew that and was making sure I was okay before he left the room. I still felt him around for a long while afterward. It was sad, but strangely comforting as well. Kind of like he was looking out for me, like I did for him when he was alive. So yes, I believe your father [b]is[/b] with you. And I believe you are accepting that offer to heal. Your words very much touch my heart. I don't know you, have only spent a short time here at the board, yet I identify so strongly with something about your posts. I'm one of the lucky ones who has been able to heal past the rage of my father. As DL said, those wounds go deep. My father is currently dying of cancer, in pain, alone ... and I feel tremendous sympathy for him. I put a lot of effort into keeping in touch with him and offering comfort when I can. That is so strange in light of the fear and hatred I carried for the man for so many years. What finally changed my view was some great counselling around family of origin work, my place in the family (caretaker), and how to reprogram my thinking to stop that knee jerk reaction to family. Once I managed to realize that I was working on old, automated beliefs, I one day looked at my father and realized he was a frail old man. To be honest, Wildcat, my first thought was, "****, I could take him now in a fight!". That doesn't sound very positive, but it was powerful for me. He could no longer hurt me physically. I extended that physical safety to mental safety. When he treated me badly, I told him not to do it. If he did it twice, I stopped speaking to him for a time. There is no way for me to have a healthy dialogue with my father. He's now sick, depressed and still an alcoholic. I am reduced to communicating on his limited level. That sucks, but it has worked. Over time he's finally come to respect me. It's so weird to have the power shift to me. And it feels so rewarding to have that power and to not use it against him. It heals me every time I could do some "payback" to my father but choos