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9 years ago 0 +0 / -0 8

I?m done for the last and 11th time! With a strange method.

I will be dead soon if I keep smoking no doubt. I've tried cold turkey, the patch, gum, dietary supplements (some actually helped) and vapor pens. I feel so sick and look horrible from smoking. I started having a chesty dry cough that hurt this last week. Now I have my asthma acting up which is something I've not had in decades. So I quit yesterday. I grabbed myself a vape pen to repeat the experiment I did last year that got me to quit for 3 months after 2 months on the vapor pen with not much withdrawal.

9 years ago 0 +0 / -0 8

Quit yesterday and plan to repeat what I did last time 3+ months cold turkey

So I got into vapor pens the last time I tried to quit. I realized that nicotine is not the problem in tobacco addiction. I do not crave the vapor pen. I don't obsess over smoking it like I would a cigarette when I'm somewhere I can't smoke (or vape). I regularly vape a full 2mL tank of 24mg per mL fluid for 48mg of nicotine a day meanwhile thats twice as much nicotine as I would be getting from tobacco cigarettes. I vape this much not because I smoke it constantly, but because I take rather large hits from the vape pen.

So using the logic that nicotine is the highly addictive substance in tobacco is false in my opinion. If I was wrong, than by me doubling my nicotine intake for 30-60 days with a vapor pen than going cold turkey my withdrawal should be doubled if not more in intensity. This is not what happens. Once I smoke the vapor pen long enough to rid myself of most smoking habits or triggers I quit cold turkey. No withdrawal, no headaches, no irritability.

I have to quit. I'm already very underweight when I'm not smoking. I'm about 124 pounds when I quit smoking for a month or two. When I relapse back to tobacco for 3 weeks I'm down to 102 pounds. If I keep on smoking and one day get cancer because of it, starting treatment at 100 pounds will probably kill me from more serious weight loss. My skinny arms are pale white and grey. My toes have a purple hue to them again since I started smoking again 2 months ago. My hairs falling out more and my face is caked in oil that will go away in a few days once I avoid smoke.

So starting yesterday at about 4PM I quit smoking tobacco. I bought a new vapor pen and fluid. I plan to smoke upwards of 40mg per day thats about 2mL maybe 3mL per day. Twice the amount of nicotine I'd be getting from tobacco. I have had my nicotine juice tested for heavy metal and what its made up of and its clean. I'll keep at this for about a month or two. This 1-2 month wait for some reason really helps when I go cold turkey. I just don't withdrawal at all once I vape large amounts of nicotine from a PG/VG solution. Last time I did this I went 3 months cold turkey after vaporizing 80mg of nicotine per day out of a 50/50 blend of PG/VG. That was by far the easiest cold turkey I ever had. I relapsed due to panic attacks.

9 years ago 0 +0 / -0 8

Is switching to e-cig considered stopping smoking

In terms of definition smoking is a result of combustion as is using tobacco. Vaporizing is a transition from fluid to vapor like water being heated and evaporated off a lake to produce mist or rain. I consider e-cigs to be non-smoking. There are things to consider when choosing to use e-cigs over a nicotine patch. Vaping will still cause inflammation in the lungs for a period of time. Vaporizing also produces particles much much smaller than particles you would inhale from smoking tobacco. This lets the particles get deeper into the lung. Its still controversial if this deeper penetration can cause people who already have respiratory infections to see worsening in their condition. You also have to think about the bad manufactures who make vapor fluids. A lot of vape shops might mix their own special blends in unsanitary conditions. They might buy low-grade materials to make their fluids. There have already been studies that find traces of heavy metals in vapor fluids and nicotine content per milliliter that exceeds or falls below advertised amount. Although a tobacco cigarette has thousands of carcinogens, and you might be thinking a vapor fluid might contain three chemicals, if your fluid contains toxic heavy metals and your vaporizing them thats sending them farther into your lung due to particle size from vaporizing compared to smoking.

Any fluid that I've bought that ended up containing heavy metals gave me lock jaw. I now buy my fluids in bulk and send samples to laboratories to have them tested for heavy metals. I don't buy any fluids that were made in china, or made up of any individual chemicals produced out of china. China still likes to produce toxic chemicals and sell them without care due to the profit/greed.

9 years ago 0 +0 / -0 8

The Dirty Truth About E-cigs

That claim is false about being 30% less likely to quit. The only times I've set records in how long I've gone without using tobacco was when I used a vapor pen before going cold turkey. Any claim that tells people one group of people who do this over something else are less likely or more likely to quit is BS. Its not just about the method somebody chooses to quit, its also more about the technique.

I can easily vaporize 100mg of nicotine per 24 hours for a whole month and quit without a problem. Smoking one pack a day for a week is the most difficult thing to get off of when going cold turkey. I choose vapor pens over the patch only because the night terrors from the patch even if I take it off and shower an hour or two before bed.

9 years ago 0 +0 / -0 8

Quit yesterday and plan to repeat what I did last time 3+ months cold turkey

Wow. I dont know why It wouldnt let me type in the test box to post, so I posted a blank message and it works now. Weird.

But its day 5 now! Everythings perfect. Today is the only day I had an actual craving for a cigarette. It was when I was learning and having really creative thoughts about what I was learning. Normally I would chain smoke while taking online classes for school while I listen to lectures. I had not been in school or studied anything online in years. Funny how those triggers still stick around till you confront them.

My nicotine consumption is going along the path I assumed. The first day I smoked three 48mg tank fulls of nicotine fluid. Same the next 2 days. After that I got over the hump and don't really feel the need to smoke that much nicotine. I don't even think about my nicotine addiction for an hour or so after waking up. Thats a good thing since I'd normally hop out of bed and drag myself to the garage for a smoke.

Today I smoked only two tanks. Not my choice or trying to taper down my consumption. Thats just how it goes. I'm noticing as the hours pass every new day i'm not vaporizing to support my habit or because I'm an addict. 60% of the time that I use it now is because I'm trying to avoid irritability or I am taking a few puffs as a stimulant to replace caffeine (that gives me anxiety) while I'm studying. Nicotine is a fantastic instant focusing tool while trying to concentrate on my video lectures.

So its day 5 and I've only had one craving for a real cigarette. The craving was not caused by withdrawal because I had the craving after taking a few puffs of vapor. It was trigger induced anyways. I still don't have any withdrawal if I go 6 hours without a cigarette as I did earlier today. Switching from tobacco to vapor pen is proving to me its greatness again (:

Does anybody think I should try and stretch my length of time not using the vapor pen? Maybe get familiar with regularly going 1 hour without using it, than in a week try 1.5 or 2 hours without it than try 3, 4 or 5+ hours without? I was planing on going cold turkey after 2 months and still carrying the pen with me in case of relapse so I don't do the dreadful thing of going back to tobacco.

I've even managed to avoid tobacco smoke almost completely these whole 4-5 days. I only get exposed to it in the car if the driver or another passenger is smoking. I just put my window down its not a big deal to me. Smells horrible :/ I'm also starting a 4k calorie diet + 36 grams protein per meal diet. With lots of healthy foods no junk! Water only. I need to regain 25 pounds so I can hit 130 pounds again. I'm deathly slim at 102 right now.

9 years ago 0 +0 / -0 8

How long till weight gain sets in?

I know I gain weight when I quit. I lost 30 pounds when I started smoking, all within 1 month of smoking after I quit for 3 months. In that 3 months I gained that 30 pounds. Its important I gain 30+ more pounds this time again because I am 104 pounds, 20 years old, and 5 foot 8 inches tall. I'm severely underweight.

I never counted the days till I saw weight gain. I can see my ribs right now, my arms are so skinny my wrists look like a baby could stap them. I basically look like a crack head. My friend calls me a cancer patient with hair as a joke because I'm so skinny. I find that pretty insulting because im somewhat self conscious about my weight right now since I'm so skinny due to me being a smoker (ex-smoker now) and my muscles are so flabby and weak as well. I did quit 6 days ago and have been working out. My muscles are gaining hardness. Before I quit my bicep and triceps had no definition and looking at myself in the mirror i told myself I had noodle arms. Now that have definition and are more rounded, and have definition. As do my pecks and abs.

I'm wondering how long it typically takes for ex-smokers to notice weight gain. I was 104 pounds last time I weighed myself. I will weigh myself when I quit for 1 full week to see how many pounds per week I'm gaining. I see a little gain in my forearms and upper arm. My rips are something I'd like to not see, they just make me look really skinny. People think I don't eat or that I have that eating disorder where people puke after eating, or just simply don't eat. Its not true at all.

9 years ago 0 +0 / -0 8

E-cig and my addiction .

My e-cigarette has again cured me of my addiction. I realized this yesterday, on day 7, one full week of not smoking a cigarette. Yesterday, I was sent to the ER for chest pains that eventually lead to me feeling faint, and blacked out. The tests done at the ER came back negative for any heart damage, blood clots in the lung, or anything else that may be a cause of the problem. I expect it to be just inflammation. E-cigarettes do cause a level of inflammation. I've tested this out myself by measuring the volume of air I can inhale/exhale 24 hours after not vaporizing anything. I always notice I can inhale/exhale less oxygen when I vaporize for over 11 minutes. That's about 24 puffs, in my case thats the comparison of chain smoking two cigarettes which I get about 12 hits per Newport 100. Within about 15 minutes I can almost exhale the same amount of oxygen as before vaporizing. Within 20 minutes I can exhale the same amount.

I sort of figured e-cigarettes causes some inflammation or air resistance just from vaporizing with one. When I first got one I loved it and puffed away at it. I noticed after about half an hour of puffing and puffing it didn't feel like I was inhaling as much. The vapor clouds I exhaled didn't look as thick or long. No matter how much I tried to inhale I either ended up hurting my throat or gagging because inhaling too much of this stuff is just gross.

I realized yesterday on day 6 of being a non-smoker that I had no withdrawal anymore. I smoked my e-cigarette about three hits total just because I wanted to blow some rings and try a new trick. Than I got into the shower 20 minutes later and that was the last time I vaped it. I got out of the hospital about 2and a half hours later and when my friend lit up a cigarette I realized I had no cravings for a cigarette, no cravings for my vapor pen, no withdrawal or anything. I was not ready to give up the vape pen 100% because I liked to blow vapor clouds and do tricks. I think I for sure will be switching my nicotine strength from 25mg per ml to 0. I feel as if right now I don't even want to vape anymore. Its been about 11 and one half hours since I used my vapor pen I smoked about 30mg of natural nicotine. I don't feel withdrawal at all. No irritability, cravings, my mood is normal. I don't even entertain any thoughts of putting the vapor pen in my mouth. I see it on my table with the tank glistening in the morning sunlight in all its beautiful refreshing liquid goodness that tastes fantastic. I don't want it at all. I don't need it at all. Going from around 20mg of nicotine a day from dirty tobacco cigarettes, to 60-80mg per day for a few days than my use on its own without me trying anything went down to about 48mg per day for a day or two, than 1 day yesterday of vaporizing maybe 10mg of nicotine total. Now I'm done with the vapor pen, and have no withdrawal or desire to continue using it.

And the media and everyone and their mother who are against e-cigarettes are complaining that they can not be used as a smoking cessation device like the nicotine patch, yet it does the same thing, the user just controls the dose per hour. And here I am....7 days into not smoking cigarettes because I used the e-cigarette and I have absolutely no signs of withdrawal. I feel like I was never even addicted in the first place.

So heres to the 9,000+ carcinogens in tobacco smoke that contains ammonia treated nicotine thats apparently the addictive substance in nicotine thats not any more addictive than natural nicotine claims big tobacco and scientists who did the botched research study on that. Good riddance. If I ever meet somebody who is a big tobacco executive they're getting punched in the face. I'll take the assault charge, its worth it.

Thanks SSC for motivating me to quit. I googled for communities like this before I quit and the information here strengthened my desire to quit again.

9 years ago 0 +0 / -0 8

E-cig and my addiction .

I cannot find an edit button for my first post. I forgot to add in the first paragraph that my chest pains that made me blackout and go to the ER were not a result of the vapor pen. I've struggled with these horrible chest pains my whole life since I was 10. When I quit smoking they are less severe and common. When I do quit and have less chest pain, when I do get them, they're unbearable for sometimes up to two hours. This is a glorification thread of vapor pens, not a thread to give somebody something to reference to if they try to make a claim that vapor pens are dangerous. Which somebody probably will quote me on some internet forum elsewhere saying I got chest pains and went to the ER after smoking the vapor pen. Of course leaving out the information in this thread. So hopefully they at least link to the thread itself.

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