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14 years ago 0 +0 / -0 6252

anerol

Panic does use a lot of energy and definitely causes fatigue. It acts just like chronic fatigue. But to be on the safe side you should have your Hemoglobin checked. Low iron can cause fatigue and since it carries the oxygen to your brain being low can really increase the tendency to panic. During my periods of worst panic I was very low on Iron. I don't know if the panic caused it or if it caused the panic. The two were just there together. It could just be me also.

Davit.

14 years ago 0 +0 / -0 517

Hi Davit,

Welcome back from your appointment, how did it go? Pretty well? I bet! how's the snow? I've seen snow but have yet to see it fall.

Anyways, thanks for your reinforcement. I'm pretty much in a situation like what you've explained, how you have used a shopping cart to feel safe. Sometimes I wonder if I can get a wheelchair, but I reassure myself to trust my legs. Lately, still in very small steps, I'm starting to learn what you've just written... I get small panic attacks sometimes, but I put my mind somewhere else, I usually say, "hey, this is that thing that happens, but goes away if you ignore it"... to myself.. and it miraculously is working these days. Today I had another success, thanks to this strategy, which I'll be posting in the success forum.

I used to feel exhausted a lot but I didn't have much reason for it. I often wondered if I had chronic fatigue... and like you say anxiety does act a lot like being tired. I'm always wishing for more energy. But I'm also learning that energy is made with energy.

Someone was talking about how we all are growing and maturing whether we notice or not.. and one day we'll realize, wow, look at me! It reminded me of one of the comments you posted on how much you've grown from this. I'll keep putting my faith in that. And thanks for believing in me, I won't let you down!

14 years ago 0 +0 / -0 6252

Anerol

It took me quite a while to get to the point where I am now and I am not totally certain that I won't get set backs. I think the break through was when I was in a store and I started to panic and get tunnel vision. I was talking to the owner and something set off the fear. I looked at the floor and thought of something else for a few seconds and then went back to the conversation. I think he thought I was just putting my thoughts together and in a way I was. I learned then that all it took was a small distraction for a short while and I was OK. After that it seemed I needed the distraction less and less. It was as if as long as I had a safe out that I didn't need to use it. I really had a terrible fear of passing out or falling. I would use a shopping cart even for one item so I would have something to lean on, the fear was that bad. It is gone, but I know that if it ever comes back I can deal with it. Like today, I couldn't bring on panic no matter what I did. I couldn't even get anxious. Maybe tomorrow will be different. I like the me who is sensitive also. I would not want to be someone who does not feel things even though some times it can be painful. A little anxiety just proves you are still alive. A lot of anxiety though is a pain in the butt. You will get to the point where I am and if it is any thing like my experience it will probably happen without you even noticing it happen. The fear just faded away.

One of the hardest things I had to do was stop saying "I can't do this". I would do that when I started to panic. I had to replace it with "really what is the worst that can happen". Or "don't be an ass, you are Ok".

I really have faith that you can do this. I think you want it bad enough to get it. It just takes time. There are a lot of negative thoughts that need to be replaced and reinforced, and that does take time.

One thing you may need to do is learn to distinguish between being very tired and anxiety. They can look the same.

Davit.

14 years ago 0 +0 / -0 6252

I have to go to my appointment (in the snow) But I will be back because I have something to say.

Davit.

14 years ago 0 +0 / -0 517

This Myth defines me.

There are days for me when I am able to still accomplish things like you do, Davit, but still many days when this Myth is running laps in my head. Lately I am recognizing my fear level more and more thanks to the anxious thoughts forms... and when I write them down, I realize that it shouldn't be that scary since, it happens almost every day, yet I still have not fainted.

I like the me who is sensitive, but I wish it was not uncomfortable.... but I guess I wouldn't feel things if it weren't.

Lesson I need to work on is : Just because it feels like it doesn't mean it is so.

14 years ago 0 +0 / -0 6252

I think chocolate brownies would be appropriate. With fresh organic walnuts.

Davit.

14 years ago 0 +0 / -0 1665

You really have come a long way Davit. Congratulations - what reward have you planned for yourself? I think you deserve one for sure.

14 years ago 0 +0 / -0 420

Davit,

Its sounds like you had one tough and exhausting day. Sorry to hear you need another surgery and have to go for another round of appointments tomorrow. You are one tough guy going to all these appointments, talking to Dr's. Nurses and pharmacy personnel all in one day. I hope you do not have to deal with as many of them tomorrow. I know this is hard especially with your disabilities and not feeling good and all. Just on more day of it and them you can stay home and rest.

You have been a real trooper Davit. You should be very proud of yourself. Of course being a firefighter and a logger probably helped toughen you up. Its is really hard work and takes a lot of endurance. By the way I love the new picture of the honker. Hang in there Davit you will get through this. I will be with you in spirit.

Your Friend,

Red

14 years ago 0 +0 / -0 6252

princesspat

According to the program in the final stages of a cure when you have mastered controlling the panic rather than it controlling you, You have to purposely bring on panic and tell it to go away. If you can successfully do this a number of times it becomes harder to do. The goal is to be able to not have any thing shy of a real emergency bring on the panic. It is getting harder for me to get excited enough about anything to panic. So I thought maybe I could do it today. I wanted to go into a panic situation so I could do the breathing and reinforcing necessary to make the panic go away. Unfortunately nothing today would set off the panic so I will try again tomorrow. Not long ago just any one of the nine stops I made today would have left me in an anxious state and any combination would have brought on some form of panic. I never hoped to get this far. All I hoped for was to be able to cope good enough to function on good days. I never thought I could have them all be good days even though my therapist said I could do it. I thought she was just patting me on the head and pulling my leg. So now I want it all. I want to be as panic free as I can be. And I want to be incentive for every one else. I want people to see that this really can be done. At this stage of the game it isn't even work any more. It just happens. I have loaded up on so much positive thought and attitude there is little room for negative. I know that if I should crash and burn it will be for so little time while I reinforce the positive thoughts that it isn't even worth thinking about. I just wish I had more posts of when I was bad to compare to. This is why I want people to post there bad days also. Because they will get better as I have proved.

Davit.

14 years ago 0 +0 / -0 113

Wow Davit, sure sounds like you had a really productive day. What made you think that today would be the day to push yourself and go out even when you were tempted to cancel the appointments?

Sorry to hear about the need for another operation, but I likeyour attitude, treating it like exposure, see it's this attitude that has gotten you where you are today!

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