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Anxious: ending relationship with brother


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my brother and i don't get along so well - we have very different opinions about very important core beliefs, but we have learned to keep our relationship in the space where we do get along.  we both have a good sense of humor and can tell jokes, stories, and talk lightly.  When conversation drifts into more serious territory, my lips are sealed...even when words are burning through them!!  Its not worth it though, it doesn't matter what i say, and he is family and will always be a part of my life, so now i have learned to fit him into my life even if its on a superficial level...better than nothing, right?  Is there a neutral space you and your brother can get along in?
14 years ago 0 14 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
 I'm not a therapist so I can't tell you if he has OCD. From what you have wrtitten it seems like he has some of the behaviors associated with OCD. It sucks to have conflict with your brother, and if it is making you anxious, you have to come to some kind of solution. Have you guys thought of getting help together? Maybe if you guys get together and work it out with a third party, maybe he can see that he does have a problem or something. It may be best to just let it be for now until you both feel better about the situation.
 
Take care,
 
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14 years ago 0 11214 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Richard,
 
I can see how you would be hurt by this email.  You felt you were trying to help and he took it the wrong way. However, if he does not feel he has a problem then there is really nothing you can do.  The first step for him is to realize himself that he may have a problem.  If his behaviors are effecting his life for the worse then it may be possible that he has a problem.  But if it is not interfering then there may not be a need for treatment. Everyone has rituals and strange behaviors, its taking those behaviors to the extreme that causes concern.
 
I think you have done all you can to help him.  It can be expected that he would react defensively.  No one likes to be told they may have something wrong with them especially when they don't believe it themselves.  The best thing you can do as a loved one is be there for him. Also, set boundaries. It is ok to accommodate and compromise but if you do not like something he does then you shouldn't be afraid to speak your mind.  Tell him how you feel but try to be constructive and not offensive.  When it comes to his past relationships, I think it is best to avoid judging his behaviours.  Only he and his ex knows what occurred in the relationship and it might be very hurtful for him to think you are taking her side.
 
Openly talk to him about how you feel.  If he does have a mental health issue the best thing you an do is ask him how he feels and be there for him. Diagnosing him could be damaging to the relationship and may make him even more resistant to treatment.
 
Let us know how it goes.
 
Any other members experiencing difficulties with loved ones?
 

 


Ashley, Health Educator
14 years ago 0 1 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0

My name is Rich, I'm anxious because I just want to end my relationship with my brother Doug because I am angry after the condescending e-mail he sent me. (see below) Why should I apologize to him? I'm not sure if he has OCD, can you tell me? He may not want to admit to it but he has had therapy in general. I don't know for what. He doesn't want to shake hands with me or anyone and also he uses hand sanitizer. For example, when we went to the museum he and his ex-wife whipped out the hand sanitizer after touching the exhibits. At his house, he told his ex-wife "No mail in the kitchen" because he fears that it has anthrax on it. He got a divorce and his ex-wife cited mental cruelty because I know how he can be: very controlling. Everything must be in its place. Don't dare put something back where it doesn't belong. When you go to the movies with him, he wants to sit in the back row next to the wall. And I just give in and accept that because I'm trying to be the nice older brother. When we watch a movie at home, he will not allow talking during the movie, if you say one peep during the hour and a half he says, "I don't like talking during the movie. I lose the continuity of what's going on." He used to brush his teeth for an hour. When we visit my mother's house he has to have his own dish towel on the back of a kitchen chair to dry his hands after using the kitchen sink. He warns everyone not to dry their hands on "his" dish towel. Does he sound like he has OCD? I e-mailed him about joining this online OCD Group and he e-mailed back: "Why would I be interested in an OCD group?: Do you ever actually listen to me when we talk?"

I confronted him as delicately as possible and he has responded:

"Rich, I'm not going to get sucked into this and defend myself. Obviously you think you've got me all figured out, just like you've figured out every person and personality in our family. You've built your case against me, ignoring what I've told you about OCD, about myself, and what two trained doctors of psychology have said about me. I've noticed that you ignore alot of what I say to you. Well please try not to ignore this. I would like you to consider that you are a serial pathologizer. You have a tendancy to pathologize every behavior of everybody you know. This is unhealthy for you and very unhealthy for your relationships. I devote more time and energy to our relationship than I do to most others. But you are making it harder and harder for me to want to do this. Please think about what I said about you being a serial pathologizer and tell me what you think.

I know you think this OCD email was an attempt to be helpful, but it just showed me that you have taken it upon yourself to approach our relationship more as a therapist than as a friend. It also showed me that you have been secretly monitoring my behavior, keeping a list, and building a case against me. This makes me feel like you are judging me, and have been for years, which makes me not want to be around you. Your email also confirmed for me that you listen to me selectively, hearing a skewed version of events that jibes with your pre-formed world view. I never asked you to be my therapist, so please stop monitoring and pathologizing me. Doug"

I feel yelled at. Do you think he's yelling at me? Does he have OCD? What opinion do YOU have?


Rich


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