Tiana - I appreciate where Foxman is coming from, but I agree that a spiritual solution is not the ONLY way for everyone.. Thank you for stating that. Also for the reframing ideas (& words) I really think that will work with my dh as we are both getting older and paying more attention to our health. I just got so locked into the alcoholic label. I quit smoking in June and it was the same thing... as long as I was calling myself an addict he didn't want to hear it and kept bringing home cigarettes. When my dentist gave us both a lecture about smoking being bad for our teeth, he did a complete turn around and was very supportive. I guess the words and labels we use have a lot more power than I realized.