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You are most welcome Keesu. We have to do this. It keeps us outside of us. The book talks about the powerlessness over alcohol, namely the obsession of the mind and the phenomenon of craving and the spiritual malady (restless, irritable and discontented) in forced sobriety. But then as we go to the later part of the book, it talks about selfishness and self-centered-ness being the issue. It talks about how our own behaviour makes others retaliate and we get upset and then get drunk. The whole process is to have different out look upon life, look and feel different even though the life situations remain the same. Daily discipline of prayer and meditation and constant thought of how we can be of service to others is the main purpose of our lifes today. There are several promises in the book but one which i like most is:
 
And we have ceased fighting anything or anyone, even alcohol. For by this time sanity will have returned. We will seldom be interested in liquor. If tempted, we recoil from it as from a hot flame. We react sanely and normally, and we will find that this has happened automatically. We will see that our new attitude toward liquor has been given us without any thought or effort on our part. It just comes! That is the miracle of it. We are not fighting it, neither are we avoiding temptation. We feel as though we had been placed in a position of neutrality safe and protected. We have not even sworn off. Instead, the problem has been removed. It does not exist for us. We are neither cocky nor are we afraid. That is how we react so long as we keep in fit spiritual condition.

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Hi Keesu and All my Friends:
 
I posted in the mod's section (weekend topic) about my meeting last night. Please read if you like. I survived it and can't wait for another. Not so scary after all. Actually very warm and friendly, and they have something I want so I'll keep going to find out how they got it. :)
 
Love to you all!
 
Tallone
 
PS: Keesu, I can give you the link to the AA site, if you like. Let me know.
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Thanks for sharing your story Foxman, and for sticking around to help us newbies - you don't have to, but it's really nice that you do. And now it looks like Tallone, you may be forming a diffferent understanding of AA also. I'll look forward to hearing about your F2F experience tonight, and your online experiences also. I'm going to take a look at the online AA myself.
 
-Keesu
 
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Hi Tallone,
 
Way to go on 12 days sober. :) I am really happy for you! I am glad that you have found something that is working for you. I hope that you feel more than welcome here and I hope you know that you are a great addition to the forums here. It sounds like you are on the right track and are feeling quite good! It sounds like your weekend went well, these are all positive accomplishments. Be sure to keep track of these, they will become important as you go.
 
I am excited to hear about your evening, stay strong, you are doing this. Day by day!
 
Ray  

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Thank you Foxman. F2F meeting tonight, will post tomorrow. Stay well.
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Good Morning Tallone,
   I am so glad that you found your path. There are many groups on the internet (just like you have in your town) but looks like there are people who went thru the wringer just like you and me and found the true message of AA.
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Here is a paragraph from Doctors Opinion:
 On the other hand-and strange as this may seem to those who do not understand-once a psychic change has occurred, the very same person who seemed doomed, who had so many problems he despaired of ever solving them, suddenly finds himself easily able to control his desire for alcohol, the only effort necessary being that required to follow a few simple rules.
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Good luck again and please keep us posted.
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Hello All!
 
I missed you all very much as I was unable to post since Thursday last.
 
Today is my 12th day sober.
 
Since last Thursday, with the aching desire to keep clean and being supported by sober friends, I found an online AA site. They have meetings everyday and a lounge open 24/7.
 
What a breakthru! Miraculously I found that place!
 
They have welcomed me, and FOXMAN, you're gonna love this, have totally convinced me that the only way it's going to work for ME, is to work the Steps, Find my HP, go to Meetings, get a Sponsor.
 
I get it and I feel GREAT!
 
The weekend went extraordinarily well. I couldn't have asked for a smoother event (the Birthday dinner). Think my HP just carried me through it. Losing my anger and bitterness toward my sister-in-law. That went swimmingly well too. Totally fantatic weekend.
 
Glucose levels this morning the best in AGES.
 
So, in checking my exhuberance, I'll stop and take a breath. Hope you all are well and find what works for you to stay sober. I think I found a good support system in AA.
 
Miss you! Glad i can post again. Love you all!
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I am glad you took time to read my old posts. Hope i was consistent . When i woke up one day from the un-conscious cycle of drinking, I realized I had to stop and went to a shrink. That kind doctor gave me medication to arrest the intake but looking at my history he recommended I take a spiritual approach and wanted me to try AA. He is one of the few doctors like Dr. Silkworth who understand only spirituality can help the drunks. Modern intellectuals think we can beat this age old disease but the drunks know we can't. So, we keep drinking and when we reach a point of hopelessness, we end up in AA, last house in the block. Entering AA i later learned is just a small piece of the puzzle. Then I was lucky to land on some free workshops freely available on the internet that walks us thru the book called alcoholics anonymous. Then I learned the monster we are fighting against. First thing i learned was about the obsession of the mind concept that always lead us a drink and then when we take that 1 drink, we trigger the phenomenon called craving. For example after prolonged absence, i will con my wife into having a Pint of Fosters and only that. I would start that, then get into that vicious cycle of putting another and another....The next day, i wouldn't con but come home drunk.
 
There are good and bad with every organization but but some just look at the negative aspects (they heard thru someone) and don't even try it. Like Eckhart Tolle talks about people being ticked off hearing the word GOD and totally denying that it points too. The book is available online and the workshops too. You don't even have to step into a AA meeting. But if you are interested about the program of recovery you can access that right from where you are. What do you have to lose?

 Working the program of AA, paved the way into other spiritual teachings, i could go thru life events with ease, create room and let the pain be there yet not go crazy.  
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Tallone, I totally appreciate and welcome all your thoughts in writing. Your real-life reflections and many of your strategies are encouraging to me, like your connecting with old friends and helping neighbors. Of course, we all share our life and progress in different ways and from different perspectives - since we are all unique (a wonderful thing!). I hope it's going well with you, and you will post again. How did your weekend go?

Foxman, I've read your more current and some of your older posts, too. Personally, I'm both hesitant (skeptical?) and fearful (cowardly?) about joining AA myself. I tend to believe more in the value of a constructivist approach to living/learning, more than a regimented one (but maybe that's the "excuse" that the drink is offering me?).  That said, it’s clear AA has made a world of difference for you, as it has for thousands of others. Perhaps you can share your personal testimony with us newer members?  I'm not saying I'll ever join AA, I can't imagine I ever would, but I do promise to listen with an open mind to your story and the ways you achieved and maintain the strength to live without intoxication. The connection with personal spirituality you've mentioned does resonate with me, as does (sadly but honestly) the mention that selfishness can be a trait that becomes inflated through the addiction - even though I abhor the idea of being selfish and know I never want to be anything other than focused on helping others...I realize we do become different when alcohol interferes.
 
-Keesu
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Hi Hors! I'm not offended, but hope with all my might that another day like that doesn't occur. I'm not planning on it, but do we ever? I'm not going to drink today. Today is all I need to get through. That's all I need to do. To do something unselfish and get out of my head. To lighten up and enjoy the sunshine after two rainy days. Now if only I can find some sugar-free banana or coconut ice cream.............

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