Hi Ann-Marie. I caught the last 4o minutes of the show. I think the "crux" of his point was that it isn't the phobia itself be it spiders, airplanes, toasters, or whatever that is causing the fear but the way in which the person is "thinking" about the thing. And the big point with me is when he kept asking "What are you trying to control?" when he was speaking to one of the people. I kept thinking I want to control the panic itself. I think he referred to it (the fear) like a light-switch and that we turned it on by our thinking so we also have the power by thinking to turn it off.
I know logically that he is right. The problem is that when I'm having a panic attack, I seem to lose my ability to think logically. Obviously, I still have a bunch of work to do.
