Hi Jan, Still trackin your progress, and delighted to see day 4 on your posts. From what i have read you are tackling the most addictive drug ever known, which is why it is not easy. If it was that easy there would be no need for this forum. So dont underestimate your courage, to tackle this drug head on requires a lot of courage, which you, Sparky, Gonnadoit, Windy, Grace, Phil, Maria are demonstrating in bucketfuls. In my opinion you are all HEROES. Bette Midlers song comes to mind "did you ever know that your'e my hero", so when MY second attempt rolls around again you can all be the "wind beneath MY wings" Just puttin it off a while longer, cus im fed up failing.... but havin said that i know im gonna beat this eventually. c ya Jan and again WELL DONE, AL