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Great work Squashed! 
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I guess I just wanted to know if I could trust myself with drinking just a glass of wine, and not go berserk with the rest of the bottle. A bit like a test. I emptied the rest of the bottle down the sink the next day because I had proved my point and didn't want to repeat the exercise. I don't feel the need to drink every day after work or get blotto over the weekend anymore. 

I am relieved actually, that I do in fact have control over alcohol and not the other way round. It's up to me to decide when or if I enjoy a glass of wine in the future. Right now I am perfectly happy with out it. That's what I have learnt.
10 years ago 0 11216 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Interesting squashed, thanks for sharing!

What made you so curious about this? What do you think you learned from it?

Ashley, Health Educator
10 years ago 0 1562 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
I was curious to see if I could handle a glass of wine or two. I wasn't craving it,

This is the 'peculiar mental twist' the book alcoholics anoymous talks about. Though the book was written 70 odd years ago, they really captured the true problem of the alcoholic or the problem drinker (whatever you call it, as Eckhart would say, don't get attached to the words/lables), hence they place the problem on the mind. Fortunately for you, your resolve was strong, you could stop. But it may not be the same everytime.

Few years ago, a friend of mine quit on her own resources, but few months later she started taking a few sips here and there when she hung out with her friends at happy-hour, parties. Slowly she drifted back to the old way of drink. I don't hear from her anymore. The book talks about this situation too:

All of us felt at times that we were regaining control, but such intervals usually brief were inevitably followed by still less control, which led in time to pitiful and incomprehensible demoralization. We are convinced to a man that alcoholics of our type are in the grip of a progressive  illness. Over any considerable period we get worse, never better.

Thanks for letting me share. 
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Hi squashed,

Kudos to you for sticking to one glass of wine! Your post is so very timely as coincidentally I too have been wondering (despite my exaltations of being free of alcohol) whether I could have a couple of glasses of wine without the " phenomenon of craving" kicking in or is it my addictive voice messing with me. I, like maccy, mcaodha and hors controle would like to have the "control" over the alcohol, not the other way around.

This is day 75 AF for me and must admit I feel very well. One of the things I really enjoyed though was reading a good book on my deck in the sunshine with a glass of wine. Warmer weather is finally coming our way and going all the way up to 7 today which is a definite trigger for me.

I certainly can relate to what you're saying Dave in that I've done exactly what you described but the difference now is that my life has become quite tranquil in comparison to what it was. Again, is it my "addictive voice" trying to entice me?

Thanks squashed for sharing that it can be done!
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"Engaging in high-risk activities is also a characteristic of Adult Children of Alcoholics and dysfunctional homes."

I really need to do a better job of proofing my posts, although sometimes mistakes can be quite humorous.

Best regards,

Dave
10 years ago 0 1009 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi Squashed,

Nice to here from again as it's been a while!  I hope you are doing well. I've considered the same thing and I realized I don't really want to go down that road. It's a pretty common thing for people who quit to consider having a drink and then go on to drink moderately. For others it spirals into a ever-worsening hell. I can only speak for myself so, yes, I've considered it. Then I consider what it was like when I quit (which is easy to do because I documented it in my diary, i.e. the destructive impact it was having on my relationships). One thing I've realized about myself through the process of quitting is that my personality type doesn't lend itself well to drinking. As I've researched the topic I found that I fall into the category of a type "T" personality (I'm a bit of an adrenaline junkie). 

Here's a good article on it:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-playing-field/200803/the-addicitve-nature-adrenaline-sport

This is one of the characteristics I really enjoy about myself and I don't want to change it. Interestingly enough, as the article states, these activities stimulate the release of endorphins, dopamine, and norepinephrine. There's a strong connection between endorphins and alcohol abuse. Studies show that drinking alcohol stimulates an endorphin release (here's an article on it, http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120111155137.htm ). Growing up in a dysfunctional, alcoholic environment led to a lot of fear and, since our natural inclination is to pursue a course of action to exercise control over our fears, alcohol consumption is a fast and easy solution. It comes back to that "Fight or flight" reaction to situations of anxiety and fear. The endorphin release can come from many sources; i.e. exercise, or even religion and it can become addictive until itself. I started a thread on this a while ago on endorphins and alcohol abuse. Engaging in high-dish activities is also a characteristic of Adult Children of Alcoholics and dysfunctional homes.

So for myself, I find I fall into a pattern....I can start off with a beer or a glass of wine and it generally doesn't create any problems for the first little while but eventually I start to push the boundaries and get caught up in the excess (binge drinking ) and forget about all the incredibly negative consequences it has on my life until I get to the point where I need to do a reset and stop. I now realize I enjoy life so much more not drinking that I don't want to bother with it. 

This is just one aspect of a very tangled and complicated ball of string I'm learning to unravel in my own quest for self-understaning and I have many miles to go and I'm quite enjoying it. I think re-introducing alcohol into my life would likely ruin it, or at the very least, take away from it. Thanks for asking the question though because it's led me to some new areas to research on my original idea.

Best regards,

Dave
10 years ago 0 42 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
So it's been nearly three months completely alcohol free for me. I am so proud of myself for acknowledging that my drinking habits were becoming increasingly destructive to my body and soul. I am so proud that I have taken positive steps to change my attitudes, beliefs and behaviours to beat this addiction. Squash it completely, so to speak. Ands it's been good, very good. It's not been easy, especially since I live with my husband who is an alcoholic ( in denial and refuses to discuss the topic) so becoming sober has really opened my eyes to some painful realities. I used alcohol "to give me strength " but I have found I am a stronger woman without it, powerful and determined.

So .... I was curious to see if I could handle a glass of wine or two. I wasn't craving it, or missing it, I wasn't bored or anxious, angry or any other emotion except just curious. Would it lead to a binge? A hangover, and self loathing the next day? All my hard work ruined, the shame of it..... I weighed up the risk and decided to buy the wine. 

I poured a glass and that's all I had. That's all I wanted. It wasn't even that enjoyable really. In fact the cup of green tea and lemon ginger  I had straight after, was much nicer. What a relief!

I realise this risky experiment could have ended in a very unpleasant way and I don't recommend that others who are abstaining do this. I am not even saying that I now have a license to drink sensibly when ever I want to. It's just that I simply had to know - could I have one glass of wine and be content with that? So yes on this occasion, I could.

There won't be any more risky experiments of this nature, my curiosity has been satisfied. Has anyone else faced internal dilemmas such as these? Are they part of the recovery process?





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