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Thanks, Foxman! I appreciate your reply. Does the Big Book have a chapter for Atheists? We're quite different from Agnostics. Maybe I won't always be one, but it's where I stand today. I can't apologize for it either. I've been to AA meetings many moons ago and heard some important testimonials. That's why I'm going back. I've known and loved "spiritual" people. Oftentimes quite envious of them. I am a very complicated person yet I crave simplicity. I know I am not alone in feeling this way.
 
This evening, I am going to lighten up on myself a bit. Maybe my good luck lately is really something more.......
 
Time will tell. And heal.
 
Thanks again!
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Tell me Foxman, how you define "spiritual".
 
The book called Alcoholics Anonymous is a guide to spirituality for Drunks. They knew people will have trouble with the GOD concept. That is why they have a chapter called we Agnostics for those who trouble with it. First though, you need to arrive at a point where only you decide whether you are powerless over alcohol or not. Then there are clear cut directions to reach a position of neutrality. Today people associate going to a meeting as "working the program or AA", that is where the trouble starts. Google for Alcoholics Anonymous, you can land on the online version. There are several work-shops on the big book freely available (search for xa-speakers). As we go through the steps with a competent person who understands the working of the steps can relieve you of the pain.
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Hi Patsyelle,
 
Good for you for renewing your committment, and coming back here for support! I joined this site just last month to admit my  problem publically and request for help to change for the first time. I feel safe to correspond here because my friends and family don't know (except my husband) - I'm a closet drinker, only drinking at home alone (my husband does not drink). The honest sharing and support here has been invaluable. 
 
I've been following the program through my Toolbox, setting my goal and completing the activities. One thing that has been as beneficial as writing and reading in the forum has been to write in my journal here as many days as I can (a hint I got from Hors Controle) - either a note about my feelings, or the type of day it's been, and issues or successes. That might be something you can try out.
 
Here's to a new day and a fresh start!  
 
-Keesu
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Excellent attitude!
 
Enjoy the walk and clear your mind!
 
 
Josie, Health Educator
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Thanks, Josie, for recognizing that I am trying.
I have to slow down a bit. I am also obsessive/compulsive, which always sets me up for disappointment. The tapes in my head call me "failure" everytime I start a project and can't complete it or get sidetracked. Often alcohol derails me and it's the food that nourishes the tapes. I do want to succeed at sobriety, so I'm going to un-hyper myself now, get off the computer, take a nice shower, walk the dog and get fresh air, clear my head, go for my appointment, food shopping, and love myself a little. Today I refuse to be a loser.
 
Have a beautiful day!
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Tallone,
 
You have come to some great realization and this is amazing!
 
You are progressing and being active about what you need to help you overcome and move forward.
 
Continue posting with us and sharing, you have some solid support to give!

Josie, Health Educator
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Welcome back Patsyelle! I'm new too. You'll see that I talk too much. How are you feeling today?
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Hello Foxman, and thanks for your post.
 
I didn't drink from 1989 to 1994. I put myself in rehab in 1987 (no one knew I had a problem but me) and after a tough several months, abstained. I went to AA meetings and found the "God" thing uncomfortable, but did get good information from others in the meetings. I drank at my friend's wedding. I was the best man and had to make a toast. I had two glasses of champagne. Then I continued drinking at a local bar when I got near home after the wedding. A bad slip. I felt very lonely that day because I had no love in my life. That changed later that year, and we're still together! Occasional drinking became regular drinking and over the last four or five years, horrificly dangerous drinking.
 
Tell me Foxman, how you define "spiritual". This has always baffled me. When I see what criminal things are done to the weak or kids, I lose all belief in "God". Those crimes always nail it for me.
 
I have social engagements coming up in the nest few weeks. I've already spoken to my love about this and I've decided that the reason I will not be socially drinking is that my glucose levels are way off. I don't want non-alcohlic friends to feel uncomfortable with me around or to scrutinize themselves or me. It'll be a matter of fact and then eventually they'll get used to me as a non-drinker. Eventually I can admit I am an alcoholic to them, but while my upcoming engagements are not all about me and I don't want to take the spotlight away from the guests of honor, that's my way away from booze. And it's actually true. My sugar is pretty damn bad! (In hindsight, they're all pretty darn smart and will figure out I'm a boozer.)
 
I'm in no place to make anyone second-guess themselves.
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Alcoholics have what is called obsession of the mind. after prolongs abstinence, their mind tricks them into taking a few drinks. Which may work for a while, but then the phenomenon of craving kicks in and they end up drink and into a vicious cycle. unfortunately the only solution is spiritual.
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Welcome Patsyelle,
 
Keep us informed of how you feel. We'll be there for you

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