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17 years ago 0 2830 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
And I also appologize if I came off snippy in my earlier post. I really wasn't trying to be.
17 years ago 0 2830 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
I completely agree with you that nobody can smoke "just one." Kinda like Lay's potato chips! :) Sure, you could be fine for a while, but what happens the next time you're in that situation? You again have "just one" or maybe that time "just two." It's a downward cycle and I don't think there's a single person here who would disagree with you that smoking while quitting is lethal to a quit. It is! I too thought what Rusty thought that you were posting about the word "slip" which, as Rusty said, can put two sides against each other and can lead to very brutal arguments. But here, I think we're all saying the same thing... smoking while quitting is NOT a good idea! There's no such thing as "just one." Crave the Quit! Pam [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 10/28/2005 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 364 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 9,118 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $1503.32 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 26 [B]Hrs:[/B] 11 [B]Mins:[/B] 17 [B]Seconds:[/B] 46
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I'm with Lady on this one, if you smoke, you're a smoker, if you don't smoke, you're a non-smoker. [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 6/13/2006 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 137 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 2,062 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $548 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 18 [B]Hrs:[/B] 3 [B]Mins:[/B] 4 [B]Seconds:[/B] 45
17 years ago 0 2838 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Slippery slope theory. The one puff usually leads to more. If it's a bad decision and a one time event (during a strong quit), it is a slip. More than a one time event, it's a relapse. The sad part is, the slip usually leads to a relapse... If it does not, that is GREAT! But all of us 'repeat offenders' know, that after the first one, it gets much easier to justify the next, and the next, and the next.... :blush: [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 9/8/2006 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 50 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 2,504 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $400 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 5 [B]Hrs:[/B] 3 [B]Mins:[/B] 43 [B]Seconds:[/B] 21
17 years ago 0 3368 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
From what I've read, many think that only having one 'drag' or only having 'just one cigarette' is considered a slip. A relapse is when one has completely gone back to smoking (buying a pack, etc.), from what I understand. IMO smoking is smoking. And quit is quit. I made a commitment to quit and I plan on holding true to the commitment I made to myself. If I entertain the thought of a 'slip' or 'just one' in my mind, then how strong is my commitment really? And what kind of thoughts am I planting into my subconscious? [quote]So if you slip and have one, then smoke for a while, then quit again. Was that a slip or a failed attemped to quit.[/quote] If I smoke a cigarette, take one drag or buy 20 packs & smoke em' all, IMO, I have just failed in that particular attempt to quit. If I ever slip or relapse, I pray that I will be forgiving of myself so that I can acknowledge what led me to that failed attempt. I pray that I will learn from it. I pray that I will have the fortitude to pick myself up, dust myself off, and move onto a new quit road so that I do not make the same mistake again. [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 5/12/2006 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 168 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 5,058 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $672 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 14 [B]Hrs:[/B] 4 [B]Mins:[/B] 26 [B]Seconds:[/B] 28
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17 years ago 0 3368 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
[quit]If having just one is a slip. That is a slippary slope.[/quote] It sure is because that is what leads to a full blown relapse. And when someone relapses who knows how many packs it will take them to get back on the quit wagon. Scary thought. [quote]N.O.P.E. Not One Puff Ever, is the only way to quit.[/quote] I couldn't agree more. [quote]I was hoping to engage conversation about this, primarily to help those that are new, or the ones who think 'I can have one'.[/quote] I think this is a very important subject to talk about. Because thinking that we can have 'just one drag', 'just one smoke', or 'just one more pack' are very dangerous thoughts to be having. Quitters need to learn to recognize 'junkie thinking' and 'just one' mentality that leads to 'slipping' or 'relapsing' is just that: JUNKIE THINKING. [quote]You are so right, if you keep at it, eventually you will get it. Learning from mistakes is very important. Grace[/quote] I couldn't have typed it better! [IMG]http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a17/Daniwiz/Animation1-1.gif[/IMG] Fondly, Free [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 5/12/2006 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 168 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 5,059 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $672 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 14 [B]Hrs:[/B] 4 [B]Mins:[/B] 30 [B]Seconds:[/B] 45
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[quote]I also don't think that a "slip" or even a relapse constitutes failure.[/quote] It doesn't have to mean 'overall' failure. But during that attempt didn't one fail to stay quit? I agree with you that it is the getting back up and getting back on the quit wagon that is important. [quote]Did Alexander Graham Bell fail at inventing the telephone? I mean, he tried hundreds of things that didn't work, but in the end, he succeeded and that's what counts![/quote] That is what counts! And he had to 'fail' forward, in other words he had many failed attempts before he succeeded in inventing the telephone. [quote]So to say that if you smoke, you failed means that the person is a failure and it's REALLY hard to keep quitting when you feel like a failure.[/quote] A failed attempt does not make someone a failure. Labels are for actions, not people. There is nothing wrong with failing. If it were not for our mistakes or the mistakes of others we'd never learn anything. This is a really great discussion. So, let's try our best to not get defensive and take things personally. Let it inspire us to never give up on giving up! Fondly, Free [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 5/12/2006 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 168 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 5,060 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $672 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 14 [B]Hrs:[/B] 4 [B]Mins:[/B] 36 [B]Seconds:[/B] 20
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As someone who can talk about smoking and quitting a lot. I do not consider haveing a puff or one cig a slip, I smoked. It was a thought out act, I had a choice to puff or not to puff. The reason why I smoked, was I was not ready to comit to my quit. Thought I was, but the addict in me was stronger. No one made me smoke, it was my choice. I think, and this is just my thoughts, one puff, one cig, one pack or a carton is smoking. I have had to reset my quit meter for one puff and for several packs. But this is how I look at it and this is how I live with it. Everyone has their opinion and that's the way it should be. Good topic. [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 10/16/2006 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 11 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 117 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $33 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 1 [B]Hrs:[/B] 13 [B]Mins:[/B] 21 [B]Seconds:[/B] 23
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Just thought I would drop by and leave my opinion. If you smoke you are not quit, if you are quit you do not smoke. I say this because I am a firm believer in N.O.P.E. I am an addict. Therefore, if I EVER take just one puff again, I will smoke for the rest of my life. I would not have the courage to quit again. It was far too hard the first time. Anytime I think about giving my quit up, I think long and hard. So far, I keep coming to the same conclusion. N.O.P.E. [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 7/1/2005 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 483 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 9,678 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $1690.5 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 42 [B]Hrs:[/B] 15 [B]Mins:[/B] 28 [B]Seconds:[/B] 56
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Grace, thank for your post. To all you nice ladies thanks for your add ons and opinions. Left or right, right or wrong, forward or backward, up or down etc etc. They are all directional and like quitting nicotine you have an addiction that dictates that you have commitment and the desire to beat the addiction or you will fail. When I first quit I had little patience with people who lost their quits, or slipped, or just plain started smoking again and I with a few others gained the reputation of being a hard a** with no compassion or understanding. Close to two years now I have come to have a change in attituds that does in fact allow me to understand the whole process. My lovely wife (Pete) went through this "slip" thing 5 times before she finally had the scare of her life and gave it up for good. She is now at 250 days and getting stronger every day. We have a diverse support group here and there are as many opinions as there are members plus visitors. We need to help where we can and that is not always successful yet we keep trying. There is no reason what ever to draw a line in the sand on a point just to win an arguement. What works for one doesn't always work for another but sharing ideas and things that helped you maintain your quit sure does help the new quitter and I would hope that is why some of us still come back every now and then to share. Duffis [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B] 2/13/2005 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 621 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 18,656 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $1595.97 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 124 [B]Hrs:[/B] 9 [B]Mins:[/B] 1 [B]Seconds:[/B] 14
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