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15 years ago 0 11 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
checking in, taking it in, not a lot to let out today.  Today was a calm day, he has an interview tomorrow and he has been effecitvely thinking and planning for this.  I've  noticed that he is not lashing out or onto me as hard as he was.  He is not as hard on himself either.  He seems stronger, like he is depending on himself again.   He did some routine tasks today.  This is more "normal" behavior.  All sounds good, but still I am scared.  I am trying to stay positive, it is a fine line, I can't minimize, I can't over react. 
 
I wish he could go back to work gradually but he does auto body for a living, getting work is tough right now.  I wish he could take more time off to heal, or had started healing sooner but his internal drive will not allow him to slow down.   Today he said he thinks he will feel better if he goes back to work, that starting a new job is less stressful than staying home thinking about going to work.  I am afraid he that if he fails because he went back too soon it will reinforce his already depleated self esteme.
 
I don't know how to plan for the future, but if you had asked me three months ago if could we have made it this long, financially, I would have said no way. 
 
I live in New England, on the MA/NH border.  Snow storm coming Friday! bold
 
WILDCAT  I loved what you said about realizing my ability to do this, and more importantly, this event has also given me the opportunity to walk in his shoes for a while.  No wonder he broke down!  I realize more than ever, just how many responsibilities he has around here!  Our roles are going to change!
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Hi Em,
 
You certainly have a lot on your plate and we are happy to be here for you to listen and support.
 
It's great to see that your husband is home now and although the prospect of going back to work has positive benefits, he must be cautious not to take on too much too quickly. As already stated, the stress is a trigger. Is it possible to go back to work on a graduated hourly scale?
 
Keep your chin up and ensure that you are also taking care of you.
 
 
Faryal, Health Educator
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hi em.
 
I learned this year that i am bipolar.  One pole of my emotions are bleak and depressed and the other pole is happy and energetic.  THat is why for ME!! a short convalesance of 3 to 6 months (usually to lets meds get working properly) and I an up and at them.  And it is usually where I get into trouble .   I need people to energize me and fill me with new ideas.  I need to create and I work in accounting - the least creative job on the planet and possibly the moon as well.   So i chatter and talk and google and yahoo and all that stuff I should not do. But I usually feel great!
 
Oups rambling...
 
lets summarize.  I do well with a short time away from work and a slow reintegation into my work place.  Part of my healing from bipolar depression is the need to weave new links with co-workers and friends - who I have thought nasty things about in the worst of my illness (and bit my tongue bloody to keep those words in my head!).  These people stimulate a part of me that would otherwise shrivel-up and die.  Even when I had my miscarrage, and thought I was the worst murderer in god's creation I took a weeks vacation and went back to work and I was in the company only 3 years with all sorts of people coming and going ...  
 
EM,
if your husband has been the rock in your relationship for many years, it is normal that you are questioning your abilities. And it is normal that you are exhausted and want your life back.  But I really think you have a great opportunity to realise who you are!   You have the chance to see what is most important in your life and "trim the fat".  A choice between a **Spic'N Span floor** or a **clean floor and great time with the kids**  A choice between the +roast and vegetable supper with cake+ or +meat and veg stew for supper and fruit salad with a board-game+  (okay board game on the computer so there is nothing to pick-up)!!! 
 
 My husband and I have made lots of tough choices and at the heart of them all were our two children.  He lost the use of his kneefor a while 7 years ago ... I learned to do I lot of careful lifting.  I began to cycle rapidly this summer and learned to be more attentive and consoling with the children.
 
You will have a great adventure!!! I am positive.  If the house does nor run like it used to, that is okay.  A new routein with several play times and a happy maman are the most important things for now!
15 years ago 0 1044 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Em,  I want to also encourage you to keep on talking.  We like to listen!  We learn from each other.  You can give those of us who are depressed some valuable insight into what are loved ones may be going through.  Also, maybe we can also help you. 
I'm glad your day went okay today.  There does seem to be many things running through our mind when we first realize the extent of the problem that we have.  There are alot of could have, would have, should have's and the focus has to be not on the mistakes/issues of yesterday, but the more effective coping with today.   I do agree that the benzo's are very helpful to me in controlling the anxiety associated with depression.  I don't take them consistently - at one time I needed to - now I take them as needed.  (well, actually with recent death of my father I am back to consistently, but working on it). 
 Indeed, when a family member becomes ill, the dynamics of the family change.  Roles change and expectations change.  This is difficult irregarless of the illness.  As for becoming the "rock", take care of you, so that you can be there for the kids and your husband.  I know I sound like a broken record.
 Chronic pain is a stressful thing.  Losing a job is very stressful and then his not seeing himself as the "rock" is stressful.  I have to express concern about the addiction to percocet thing.  I maybe overly sensitive to addiction, but it would seem to me that would be very difficult to contend with on top of the depression and other issues mentioned.  
Em, I don't want to paint a bleak picture, but I know people who aren't able to go back to work, people who it takes several years, it took me two and some who just are able to jump back in there.  It depends on too many factors to be able to predict.  I do believe there is a therapeutic component to work, but I have not been able to maintain a job at the level of functioning I had prior to my depression.  I am working toward that, but I'm not there yet!  
Your husband, his psychiatrist, and his therapist will have to determine the best course of action in his recovery.  Hopefully, they can work together to help expedite your husband's recovery.  You don't say where you live, in terms of country, but in the US there are programs for people with disabilities (like depression) to assist them in returning to work, maintaining stability, etc.  I am not sure about other countries but I'm sure there are some folks on here who do know.  


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hey em, of course, you're not talking too much. say what you have to say. you seem to be on top of things. maybe you will discover you are the rock! who doesn't like percocet? when you're in pain, it's like chocolate. my husband takes vicodin for pain - has for years. i do think his depression will lift a little once the stress is minimized. i admit to loving my klonopin (benzo), it really helps me .5mg 3x a day. not much - spaced out - it helps. hang in there, em, please say all you need to say. you're traveling a rocky road right now - we've all been there in one form or another. no shame in taking all the help you can get. just ask and be persistent!!!!! 
15 years ago 0 11 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Rose
 
I was able to get a loan off my 401K, that will help.  I had an appointment to get fuel and electric assitance but unfortunately I was in the ER, I am going to reschedule.   Not knowing when or if he is going to get better makes it even harder to do these things, we never thought this would go on for three months.  I'm not sure how to do it even, we have never had to ask for help before.  He was the rock!  We were a great team and it is tough doing it alone, trying to hold my crumbling husband together on top of the normal stuff like working, cleaning, cooking, keeping the kids' lives running normally has made it difficult to do the extras like that.  Now that he is more stable I will start working harder on that stuff. 
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He came home today!  I was very nervous, it was a very short stay, but he is better than I expected.  his thinking is much clearer, more positive, but definately I can see the "sad" depressed more clearly now that the agitation is gone.  He is doing okay, some problems with the medication.  He didn't complain about the medication while he was in the hospital because he was afraid they would keep him longer.  He is going to call the OP psychiatrist and talk to him about the medication problems.  He can not take antianxiety medication because he had been taking percocet (prescribed for two herinated disks in his neck).  He needed help getting through the physical symptoms of withdrawal, and generally likes percocet so the OP psychiatris is concerned that he could develop a problem with benzos, he is not convinced that he was "addicted" but does not want to go there.  He decided to stop taking the percocet immediately after the depression hit, thinking that he was feeling "crazy" because of them, then started taking them again because he thought stopping was making it worse, and then stopped again.  On top of the job loss, it was a perfect storm. 
 
Just before he went to bed  I could tell the medication was making him feel funky, and he said he wished he could just be normal again. 
 
He had some great insight today though.  A former boss offered him a job a while back but has had a million reasons not to go back there and he started listing them off again tonight and said "I need to stop jumping ahead so far, I haven't even talked to him yet and who knows, maybe ... " and listed a bunch of possible benefits to working there.  Any one have an opinion on when he should return to work?  I think if he can just get started again it would help in so many ways, being around people, physically moving around, having something else to think about, not to mention the financial issue.  But on the other hand starting a new job is loaded with stress even without major depression.  Since stress appears to be the catalyst, will the depression improve once the stress is gone?
 
He did say he would see an outpatient therapist in addition to his psychiatrist for medication, and I showed him the toolbox section on this website.  He said he would do it but we had some unexpected visitors, but he did go on the treadmill for 30 minutes this afternoon.  And he is much more concerned about me and the kids!  I don't feel like he has both hands around my neck, pulling me under with him.  It was a short stay but seems to have helped, I feel like he is started to go in the right direction.
 
Am I "talking" too much?  I am sorry, but I need to get this out, and not at him, or to others who will judge him.  I don't think you can really understand this unless you have gone through it yourself.  I need this!  I have to stay strong!  Don't think your advice is falling on deaf ears, I am listening and learning and willing to do what ever it takes.  And I am passing this information on to him.  It seems like he prefers to hear it from me, he is trying to find a solution to this too.
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Em, I hope you keep us posted on how today went as well as what happens in the future, keep in touch, use the program and hang in there - taking care of you!
 

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em,
 
Is your husband going to continue receiving help once he is discharged from the hospital? Do you think your husband would join the depression center and work through the program? He might find it very helpful.
Keep us posted on how things are going,
 
Breanne, Bilingual Health Educator
15 years ago 0 201 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
i hope things are going ok for you today em, you probably feel like you're walking on eggshells! hope he is taking anxiety meds and an antidepressant. maybe you will have to work or him go on disability? that is the worst case scenarios. if money is a problem, you could apply for food stamps or aid - maybe that would take some of the pressure off him while he looks for work. you are in a difficult situation - be wary - his denial/minimization is troubling. have the doctors # on hand. good luck, let us know how you are doing

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