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Time for change...

Oh, that avoidance thing can get out of hand... I'm just beginning to realize that my depression lifted because I've learned to avoid most triggers.  Those I couldn't avoid, I drank to cover.  But hey... no depression so it was ok. Not.  Now that I'm trying to get back out in the world it's pretty humbling to realize all the old triggers are still there.  The Evolution Health Panic Center lessons and education is helping me understand and and actually change my reactions.  Well, that's the idea.  I've clearly not mastered the techniques yet as I'm just beginning the program. 
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Hi, Brand new, looking for hope

I do the same thing FFirecracker!  Is it self-fullfilment?  It never fails that when I make a postive statement or effort... bam, I pay the price.  Always.  Really.  I'm wired to fail.  Can I ride your coattails on figuring this one out? Maybe Ashley will just give me a pass on this one? :)
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Hopeless

some days are like that.  I know to be gentle with myself when my to do list consists of :
1. get up
2. get dressed
3. take meds
and then I'm done for the day.  Those days are fewer, but still there from time to time.
But, yeah... when I find one of those lists later on when I'm doing well... it does make me smile AND count my blessings that I have more good days than bad.
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Is this caused by depression? Will it go away if the depression goes away?

Hey FF... since you have started a separate thread on this, I will go ahead and repost my tale of meds and depression just to keep it all in the same place.  I hope other ppl will offer their experience too.  (I did edit some)
 

As for the medications, all I can offer is what my experience has been.  Upping or lowering meds causes all kinds of emotional and physical changes... best undertaken with a doctor's supervision.  I can't tell you how many times I decided to go off my meds.... for many different reasons.... feeling better, feeling worse, cost, side effects, didn't want to be a "crazy".  About a month into my quit I would be wondering why my moods were so up or down or I was so irritable and had a hard time focusing.   Since the effects did not wear off immediately, by the time they did, I'd forgotten I'd ever felt better and that it was while I was taking my medications! 
 
I don't go off my meds anymore and I've learned to check with my doctor (used to have a pdoc but now just see my gp) before making any changes. Life  works better for me when I do.  It was hard to come to the realization that I need to stay on them probably for the rest of my life... I am hoping doing the CBT will maybe mean I can eventually take a lower dosage.  This messed up brain chemistry stuff is no myth... it can be really, truly debilitating.
 
You said that you felt like those negative thoughts were with you on the drug, just not as constant.  For me, the negative thoughts and depressed moods are still present when I'm on meds but they aren't as constant, deep or debilitating... they become manageable and I'm more likely to recognize the signs of depression and... well, get back to managing and things get better pretty quickly.
 
Do you have a doctor you can consult about your meds? 
Why did you decide to wean yourself off the Effexor? 
Have you ever tried any other medications?

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Hopeless

Hey NothingLeft...  you started a good thread... just wondering how you are doing today.  I hope you are feeling more hopeful, of course, but we are here to listen if you are down too.  
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Hi, Brand new, looking for hope

Tiana... your first paragraph really speaks to me.  Wow. Can I quote you on this one?
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Hi, Brand new, looking for hope

Hey FF... please don't give up.  I see you are on line right now... stay on and I'll write some more.  Sure wish the darn instant messenger worked.
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Hi, Brand new, looking for hope

I am so sorry... I got kicked off my internet connection and couldn't get back until just now.
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Hi, Brand new, looking for hope

so... I had written a totally brilliant post and then lost my connection and all my thoughts
I was going to say something about hey you are already here and posting wouldn't hurt to give it a week.  And get your blog started.  write everyday.  it is easier to keep a conversation going if you are blogging daily...  that is all i can remember for now.  Oh and it can get better.  I'm proof.  I'm not perfect but I'm no longer living in despair.  so there. hang in there !