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14 years ago 0 1044 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Samantha,  i'm glad you like my idea about fixing things up around here and prioritizing.  It's already making a positive effect.  Though I seem to start a project and get sidetracked on another.  I think as the number of projects dwindle I'll be able to focus on just the project at hand.  AT least I'm getting to mark things off my list or put marks by two or three things even though only partially done - it's accomplishing something.
 
I did do the relationship section some time ago.  I'd seen that I'd done it, but I'd done it with a specific relationship in mind and setting boundaries in that relationship.  It helped with that.  I'm reworking it thinking about this new relationship and doing the inventories and will when time, do the other exercises.  I'll keep you posted.  As you know, it may take some time to do all the work, but I'll keep plugging along. 
thanks again - setting me on the right track!
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Hi Goofy,
 
It is a very good idea to make a list of things to do in the house and prioritize them. Re-organizing your space can help change the mood that your surroundings invoke.
 
If you go through the program the 13th section deals with relationships, take a look at it, read through it and see if it touches upon what you are looking for. There are also worksheets dealing with relationships as well. Check it out and check back soon!
 
 
Samantha, Health Educator
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The fear of rejection is overwhelming at times.  I'm working on dealing with it.  I don't think I'm being effective.  I haven't handled that well in the past.  I don't necessarily believe that the past is a predictor of the future however, I do fear with the depression, it's a higher risk than before.
 
I'm trying to make a list of things in the house to do and prioritize them, but I get into which comes first, if I do this, then I have this obstacle, if I do that then another.  I have found some things I can do.  Actually my friend suggested it. I'm getting  ready to get all my "fat" clothes pulled out.  He made a good point, as dedicated as I am about not gaining weight, I'm not going to wear them.  He also suggested I weed through my "skinny" clothes.  He said when I get there, I'm gonna want some new stuff.  that will give me very few clothes (lol) as I've bought very few "inbetween" clothes.  However, I can make do.  If I do that, I'll have alot more closet space and I can donate the clothes to people who are less fortunate - that would give me a good feeling.  What I will do after that is pretty much up in the air, because of the above mentioned issue.  I guess I'll figure it out eventually. 
 
How to deal with fear - am I missing something in the program/sessions on this.  I know there are discussions about sort of a "shaping' process re: going on a bus, getting out in public, facing fears re: social situations.  I don't seem to find anything that directly relates to fear of regression based on a dating relationship.  Would appreciate some direction to a session or feedback on this issue.  My theory on "one day at a time" doesn't appear plausible or realistic at this point in time.  
 


14 years ago 0 823 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Goofy,
 
First off congrats on getting organized and cleaning up! I am sure that brings some sense of peace and tranquility to your surroundings and your mental health.
 
You should not feel embarrassed about being emotional because it is normal to feel this way when you are still grieving or when you are struggling with depression and anxiety. Try not to overanalyze this and make your best effort to take things one day at a time.
 
You have found a wonderful person in your friend and it's great to see that he is so supportive and understanding.
 
Keep us posted............
 
 
Faryal, Health Educator
14 years ago 0 1044 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
This weekend my friend came to visit me.  We had a great time and I thoroughly enjoyed his company.  I had a few times when I was depressed but muddled through it I think, without him knowing.  He and I talked about what might be getting me down and he sort of had figured out the house thing.  He kick started me and helped me clean out and reorganize every kitchen cabinet and empty some boxes of dishes that I had inherited.  This was a one day job we split into two parts.  He encouraged me not to keep everything (I want to keep everything).  I managed to throw away 4 bags of stuff!  From my kitchen and laundry and the paper the dishes were wrapped in.  Mom had like a service for 18, I think we counted, and plates, cups, salad plates, soup bowls, cups sauces, bread plates.  I had to make room for all those dishes and the serving bowls, platters and other things that matched.  It felt good cleaning out and getting organized, was tough cleaning all those stored dishes and putting them in my cabinet....remembering mom and all the good meals we shared over many many years.  Seems like remembering the pleasant things should make one happy but it didn't this time.  It seems that all those meals I should be grateful for and the time spent I should be grateful for should compensate somewhat.  I held it together through that.  We ate dinner with some friends, had breakfast with my son and his family, I cooked one night (lol, messed up the cornbread and the pie) but the rest was good. 
 
Anyway, getting to the issue.  Sun afternoon about an hour before he had to leave, I just lost it - crying and crying and crying and crying and couldn't put a finger on it.  I was embarrassed and I had no reason really.  I didn't know when he was leaving so it wasn't connected to that.  He was supportive, thank goodness he knows about depression or I'd surely have ran him off!  Then I got upset with myself for crying uncontrollably for what seemed like FOREVER!  Oh well, I should be grateful that I've found such an understanding friend.  But that shadow of depression lingers today without mercy.  

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Okay Ashley, It's inconsistent to say I live one day at a time in this relationship and worry about the future.  I don't think I can visualize what I would think looking back on this situation 5 years from now or 1 year from now.  I really do think it would be based on how well, I handle the situation if/when it arises. 
 
One day at a time means just taking what happens to day and dealing with it.  When I get a bill, pay it.  when a situation arises deal with it.  When an invitation arises, accept it.  Focusing on not being depressed "just for today" (borrowed from 12 step program).  Usually what creates my "downfalls" is when something happens that causes me to have to think forward or beyond today.  i.e. I got a letter in the mail from a dr. office saying I owed them lots of money.  I called them to tell them they'd processed through the wrong insurance company.  They gave me this list of things to do and it's a long drawn out process and that makes me have to focus on more than just today and how will things turn out.  Just for today or one day at a time, helps me focus on what I have to be grateful for today.  tomorrow I can take the same inventory and may have a different list.  lol, that one day, I wasn't grateful for the mail, the dr. billing office, the insurance company, or the list of things to do, but I was grateful for a whole host of other things.  family, friends, house, vehicles, dog, love, my higher power, my spirituality, my material possessions, the progress I've made in my depression, what money I have, the food I eat.  I mean that list goes on and on.  And that keeps having to do that bill thingy more in perspective.
 
The relationship can't realistically be one day at a time.  If we are planning to be together, go somewhere, something comes up and we can't be together.  I feel elated, or happy or disappointed, or hurt, or whatever emotions fit the situation.  I guess any relationship focuses on "beyond today".  We know we are gonna all die one day, so one day at a time, does help me be grateful for another day with those I love or have friendships with.  I dunno.  I am talking myself into a circle and I thought I had it clear in my head.
 
In response to your other post.  I do think I need to make me a list, check it twice and figure out what needs to be done first, figure a budget, time frame and get moving....I think that would help tremendously.  
 
How do I feel about the relationship - well anxious when I think about the risk and happy when I think about the companionship.  I deserve to be in a dating relationship but my biggest fear is returning to where i was (posted re: this in mod's corner) and there is a session (which I've not gotten to) that says preparing for the return of depression.  So it's like I need to prepare for Hurricane Goofy, in case the relationship goes bust!  How does one do that?  Visualize myself 5 years from now, but 5 years from now, I could be just digging myself out of my proverbial hole.  1 year from now, I could be back in that da** bed.  I guess you can see I've also had difficulty with how I felt when I read that.  The see-saw or scales don't seem to balance Ashley!
 
Anyone else got any thoughts.  Grumbles, I think your philosophy is great.  How do you handle it when a relationship goes bust, how does it effect your depression?   Can you visualize yourself 5 years from now with or without your current relationship status (even if you aren't in one)???  I think you provided me with a great suggestion re: my house, grumbles, ty.  I look forward to seeing what yo
14 years ago 0 125 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hey goofy
 
I was reading your discussion and I know what you mean.....  It can be terrifying dating but I feel the risk is worth it.  I always go by the philosophy it is better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all.  But that's just me
 
And about your house...I get it.  It can be crazy and with a big house is seems like too much.  Geesh sometimes I get overwhelmed with my litte apartment haha.  Take your time and appreciate the improvements you do make.  Anyone worth being with will understand.
 
I like Ashley's questions....they really get you thinking
14 years ago 0 11212 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Goofy,
 
It seems like you have big plans for your house and that is great.  It may seem overwhelming to you though as it is a lot.  What sort of plan could be made so you would know when and how you would complete some of gthese plans.  How would you be able to break put down into managable chunks, perhaps prioritizing what bothers you the most. Once you have it on paper you may feel a bit better.  Just a thought. 
 
I am glad you are seriously going to think about those questions.  It sounds to me like you are in two places one side tells you that it is not worth the risk and the other tells you companionship is awesome!  So how are you feeling now, when you read this?
 
 
Ashley, Health Educator
14 years ago 0 1044 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Ashley, I moved to town from a country environment about 8 years ago.  When I bought the house I thought about the upkeep of a large yard that I had in the country and the fact that I would be living by myself.  At the time I was working on my doctorate and working full-time and had a son in college.  (My son being in college and subsequently law school) was why I knew I'd be responsible for my yard by myself.  I hate living in town, I've always lived in the country.  I don't go outside much because I feel like I'm living in a fishbowl.  It didn't bother me until the depression hit and I stay home more.  My privacy is more important to me now than ever before.  So, NO, I really don't like my homes location.  I think my home has some amenities that attracted me to it in the first place, but realize these amenities could be found in other homes.  I hate coming home to the nasty carpet and minor repairs (again, I'm working on this as finances allow). 
Also, my home is fairly open spaces.  I don't like sitting in my living room (25x17 feet), I feel lost.  I spend most of my time in my bedroom which is also large but is taken up by more furniture.  My formal living room is full of things I inherited from my parents estate that I would like to incorporate into my house but then again, comes the repair and the flooring issue.  The other flooring besides the carpet is in poor condition as well.  Only two rooms need painting (I want to do that myself).  I have two extra bedrooms and am satisfied with them - mostly - the carpet and the organization in one room since the kids moved out and is also the room that needs painting.  My bedroom also needs painting.
lol, I guess the answer is no, I'm not satisfied with my home environment.  I want to do the things needed to be done and sell it and buy a home in the country where I'm not living in a fish bowl.  That and the part about the floors.  Again, it's also embarrassing to have such a nice home and it be in this condition.  I also don't keep things as clean on a daily,weekly or monthly schedule as I would like.  It's the motivation, the fact that I don't like the way it looks and I live in a fishbowl - plus the depression.
 
Geez, the one day at a time 5 years from now.....you are right, I need to think on that one.  It doesn't seem realistic from that perspective (initial thoughts).  And if I am committed to one day at a time, why am I so worried about if/when things come to an end.  I'll get back to you on this one.   I'm afraid the pleasure I get out of the situation isn't worth the risk of going back where I've been.  I really really enjoy dating after almost 5 years, the companionship is awesome! 
 
Okay, I'm thinking about the one day at a time thing and looking back 5 years from now.

 
 

14 years ago 0 11212 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi goofy,
 
It seems to me there are two main issues here.  I am hearing that you are concerned about the thought of rejection and you are bothered by how he may perceive you due to the condition of your house.  Does this sounds right?
 
First of all, both of these concerns are normal.  We all fear rejection and we all are concerned about how we will be perceived.  Even if your house was immaculate you may still be concerned about how he will perceive you. 
 
Are you content with the condition of your house?  Does it make you feel good to come home and spend time in your place?  If not then we may want to set up a plan to tackle this problem.  If yes, then we will need to set up a plan that will help you feel comfortable enough to bring him over.  If he says it does not bother him then that is very good.  We will move forward with this once you really think about the above questions.  Goofy, what is home to you? How satisifed are you with your home environment at this point?
 
Ok now on to the very tough issue of rejection.  This is a normal fear and the more time you spend with him and the more the commitment grows the more secure you will feel.  You are doing all the right things; trying to think positively of how you will move on if rejection does occur.  That is great.  But I have a few questions for you to think about.  What does it mean to you; taking it one day at a time?  Not just the definition but what does it mean to you emotionally to really commit to that statement?  What would you tell yourself to do in this situation if you were looking back at yourself 5 years in the future?
 
Let's start a discussion on this topic!
 
 
 
 
Ashley, Health Educator

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