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10 years ago 0 177 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Sorry, I got off topic.

I have a tendency to wake up during the night, especially when I'm stressed, and I'll stay awake for hours until I eventually fall asleep again. It doesn't really bother me much, until the tiredness hits the next day. I've found there isn't really much I can do to prevent it happening, I just have to let it pass when it does. Like a panic attack.

The core belief that affects me the most, and I'm sure you will be able to relate, is not being good enough. I remember the first time I actually noticed it. It was when I was in hospital at the start of 2008, and psychiatrist said I wasn't eating enough and I had to do better. I thought "Nothing I do will ever be good enough for you." There has certainly been quite a lot of things which reinforced that since then. Even what I spoke about in my last post, when I said, "Everything I do, you do better."

Kaitie.
10 years ago 0 6252 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Here is an interesting thought to think on. It could be an explanation of sorts. We know that when searching for answers the mind picks out the most appropriate based on  a number of factors. Interest, attitude, necessity. The list goes on. But it also looks at associated thoughts.

I know now that this is why I could not stay in electronics. I was not lacking in interest or skill but I kept going to negative associated memory. And that thought was that I was just a kid and adults were using me and I was getting no respect for my efforts. A lot of the time I wasn't even paid or thanked. This associated memory started coming up even when I was not dealing with people ruining the pleasure I would normally get. So here I was with a core belief to draw on. A few instances of a similar nature reinforced it and set me on the road to looking at all I did in a negative way. Fortunately a few good experiences and some praise left me with a balance of positives so I could be very good at what I do now but never in electronics again, the die is set. The other core belief that this caused is that I have to be the best. Not just good but better. That one effects everything and I am working on it. It is never too late to change.

I would bet that for every perceived failure that you can find an associated memory that you draw on clouding the real thought. I would bet you were better than you think you just had this extra hurdle to get past.

This or these may not be your core beliefs but I will bet for every failure you think you have that there is one there. The hard part is to not make use of it in the next attempt at doing something.

And since this is about sleep, I bet you can find one associated with sleep or more precisely here, not staying asleep. I know because I had one. It is gone and I sleep.

Davit
10 years ago 0 4027 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
When I was doing projects, I was criticized for being last to finish the documentation.  Another colleague mentioned that "somebody has to be last", so comparing really has little merit.
 
Think about sports.  The professional leagues aren't necessarily the "best" to watch, although they're the best athletes.
 
I'm not sure why I do it, but it doesn't seem to help, does it?
10 years ago 0 177 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Ashley, I love white noise too! I was disappointed when we moved house about a year and a half ago because I couldn't hear the traffic as much.

Hugs, I've been doing the same thing too. When I first started going downhill a couple of years ago, I was quite unstable and my friends weren't sure how to take it. I had a breakdown towards the end of year 11, when one of my best friends got a school leadership position and I didn't. She went to hug me because I was crying and I pushed her away, then I said to her, "Everything I do, you do better." It was never a competition, but we did the exact same subjects, had similar interests, same group of friends. She was more popular than me, she got the top grades of our classes and got roles in the school play when I didn't. She never saw herself as better than me, but since I was depressed I thought I was a failure. Around that time, we had to write a reflective speech about our life so far, and as a part of that we were expected to write about difficult times we'd been through. I was chatting to another friend on Facebook about what we were going to write in that part. I mentioned I might talk about what had happened with our friends, like how I felt like a failure and that was a hard time for me, and he said, "Don't mention that or everyone's respect for you will go down the drain." He also told me "You can't expect to have a go at one of the most popular girls in school without there being consequences." For the 2 weeks since what had happened with her, apparently everyone had been talking about me behind my back and they were annoyed with me for what I'd done. Yet no one had asked me about it to my face. I felt hurt that no one realised that was my cry for help, that there was something else going on.

At the start of grade 12, another one of my close friends who I thought would always be there started drifting away from me. She said she couldn't stand being around me anymore because I was too negative and down on myself. I was still going downhill then. It's been almost 2 years since I yelled at the girl who was school captain for our senior year, and it's been playing on my mind a bit. I was sorting out my old school books, and in the margins of my biology notebook are random scribbles and drawings from the 3 people I've mentioned. In that class, it was just the four of us from our group. It was hard remembering what it was like before all that happened, to what things are like now. I've lost a lot of friends because of my anxiety.

This is the first time I've ever written what happened out like this, so sorry if it's a bit long winded. I was kind of processing it myself at the same time.

See Hugs, we need to stop torturing ourselves with the past. The problem with comparing ourselves to others is that we compare their best qualities to our worst, which isn't fair. It's strange how we would never do that other people, but when it comes to ourselves it's a whole different set of rules and expectations.

Kaitie.

P.S. Sorry to be a bit of a downer there!
10 years ago 0 4027 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Maybe doing those daily core belief affirmations more of a difference than I think.
 
I'm not sure what "success" means to me, other than something "happening".  There must be some greed factor.
10 years ago 0 6252 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Now this is where I am different. I lived in a cabin with a wood stove for heat. Not only did I not have insurance but what good is it in the middle of the winter if your home is burning down around your ears. Every noise means something when you live like this. But you get used to the ones that belong there. And the ones that don't, they wake you. So does silence. Like when a wolf is passing by my dog team and I don't hear any movement or too much movement. Or a rare thing but it happens, I have a chimney fire. So noises that I feel don't belong there bother me. It took me years to get used to a fridge. I still don't have insurance, I'm too far from the fire department so noises are still important. My drinking water filter wastes three gallons of water  back flushing for every gallon it saves. The pump kicks in often. It doesn't bother me but if it runs steady because I lost the prime it wakes me. A fan would cover these noises and I wouldn't sleep. But this is just me. Secure people should be able to sleep unless it is anxiety. That is a whole different game. 
I don't think I have asthma, just once in a while I can't breath right. It is stressful. Taking something once a week or twice a month would be okay. I don't remember it making me sleepy. Gravol did. So did some of the pain killers. Trimipramine helps me sleep if it is stress. It is prescription so your Doc is going to know how much you take. He may not give it to you. It is a mood stabilizer type of antidepressant. But mostly I use nothing, I just sleep.

Davit
10 years ago 0 2508 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi Naa thanks for the tip on benadryl.. Hi Ashley thank for word of caution on the Bendryl too..
 
I was thinking about giving it a try tonight..I will check to make sure it mixes with what I already take..They suggested taking Benadryl to help me sleep when I was taking Interferon and Rabavirin because these two drugs cause insomnia. I can't remember if I tried the Benadryl because they gave me zanax instead to be take only if  really needed.. xanax can be addictive..Benadryl is not so it is safer.
 
I do listen to the radio when I go to bed with the sleep timer set for 1 hour except when it shuts off it wakes up me up sometimes and I wake up turn it on again. I can't leave it on all night because the loud new programs come on at
4 am and diffently wake me up.
 
Ashley thank for the tip on white noise..I haven't tried white noise yet, it sounds like something I might want to try and I wouldn't have to be concerned about anything negative getting into my subconscious while I sleep like it can with the radio..Plus I really like the idea of not taking any drugs to sleep.
 
Red..
 
10 years ago 0 11213 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Do any of you use consistent noise in the background like a fan or white noise? That seems to help me sleep. 


A side note on Benadryle - I would caution you on using this as a sleep aid as this is not its intended purpose and it should not be taken long term. Talk to your pharmacist about this just to be safe.

Ashley, Health Educator
10 years ago 0 6252 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
I sat down in my recliner with a cup of tea beside me and fell asleep. Woke up with my cat and my tea cold. I guess five hours last night wasn't enough. Hmmm. I have Benadryl too, that might have helped me sleep last night. I used to take it to stop the itch when I was on Morphine. I've been on Morphine a few times for intense pain and always got two days worth of panic on withdrawal. Never addiction even when I was on for over a month in hospital last summer. Hard to believe that was only a year ago. Hard to believe how bad the pain was. CBT keeps me from focusing on it. I can go there, I just don't and when I do it isn't bad. Just different.

Davit
10 years ago 0 85 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi Red,
I have the same issue you have. I fall asleep and then I find myself awake an hour or so later and then struggle to get back to sleep. I take benadryl to help me sleep but it doesnt always work...
I notice though that exercise helps a great deal when I make the time to do it.
 
 

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