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bettinia

Nice flowers. Nice to hear from you too. Good luck with the Psychiatrist.

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Gosh, Steven, so sorry.  I have had to ditch my underwear a couple of times at work to try to get through the day.  I had recently started Wellbutrin and definitely noticed an improvement in this area.  I don't know if anyone else has experienced this or maybe because its summer.  Change of seasons is particularly hard on my lower GI.  Everyday I experience cramping and loose stools.  But lately, my anxiety has left me constantly burning in my face, totally uncomfortable with life, and seriously trying to figure out what I can do to relieve it.  It is also coupled with depression from losing my Dad and my son joining the Marine Corp and graduating high school.

These are true situations that are very difficult that I am dealing with mostly to do with property and people's lives and how they are going to live.  So I feel such a heavy responsibility that the weight is going to kill me.  I feel so much pain that I can't stop drinking once I get home.  It's the only thing that works.  But then I know the next morning it all comes back again!  And what really happens is that I don't process the anxiety from the night before so it compounds.  Plus alcohol ruins my lower GI.  I hope my thread is not disrespectful to anyone or too negative.  I really read these forums and never participate.  but reading the forums helps alieviate my panic attacks - sorta like a distraction.

BTW, I am trying to seek help from a psychiatrist as soon as I find one that my insurance accepts so don't worry.  Just to let you know that I love all your posts and support.  Thanks again.
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I have been reading Session 3 about Challenging Anxious Thoughts.  I understand what is being said about "proving" if an anxious thought is true or not. 

 Changing a thought pattern by analyzing/questioning it, I totally understand and could do that.  I see how that could make a big difference as far as "defusing" anxious thoughts.

 In my case, my biggest fear is that it will cause me to loose controls of my bowels in public.  This is a very real physiological response to anxiety or panic for me.  It is a virtually guaranteed response/outcome.

 How can you break the pattern where your body won't cause this kind of response?  Keeping in mind that if I take medicine to "stop me up", it will in virtually every case cause a Crohn's episode (intense lower right quadrant pain like an appendicitis attack with overall feeling of flu-like symptoms [aches and low-grade fever]).   A Crohn's episode will last about 3 days once started.

 Dealing with the fear elements such as racing heart, sweaty hands, tingling, etc. are all symptoms, while very uncomfortable, will subside when the panic situation is gone and there is no tell-tale signs of them ever being there.  In my case, in addition to those sensations and the feeling of wanting to be out of the situation itself, it triggers this bowel issue where I have to find a bathroom immediately or I will soil myself which will be not only embarrassing, but messy...causing me to go home and shower and clean my clothes.  This interrupts everything you were doing and puts a huge thought in your mind to not leave the house for fear (and likelihood) that this will occur as it has occurred a number of times before.  The urgent need for the bathroom can and does happen even at home where there is no threat of public embarrassment.  I just happen to be close to the bathroom and can in almost all cases get to the bathroom in time to not have a mess.

 As an example, a friend of mine was helping me to get out and go to a store I really wanted to go to.  It is about 25 miles away and so there is a car ride involved and me as a passenger which I don't like to be, but with him, I trusted him completely and knew he would help me and not judge me regardless of anything happening.  I was already anxious about the trip before we went as I am sure you can imagine.  He was completely aware of the possibility of me needing to stop for me to use a bathroom at a moments notice.  Well, about half way there, I needed to use the bathroom.  Because this hits without warning, I told him to pull off the road so I could use a field to do my "business" (I live rurally).  He said he would find a bathroom.  Keep in mind that I cannot hold this back for very long at all once I have to go.  We pulled into a random business and I had to go in and ask if I could use their bathroom...all the while holding everything back as hard as I could and trying to put on a good front for the people at the business.  I basically made it to the bathroom with just a little mess.  We then continued driving toward the store.  After getting into the city where the store was located, I started to cry uncontrollably.  My anxiety was extreme.  He was very supportive and caring through all of this.  We finally made it to the store and before going in, I tried to compose myself.  While in the store, I had to go across the street 3 times to use a bathroom at a restaurant because of this issue (the store had no public restrooms).  I was so anxious that I didn't even enjoy the store and finally said we had to leave after maybe being there 45 mins to an hour.

 Once we were on our way back, my anxiety subsided completely and had an uneventful drive back home.  That was a harrowing experience that was witnessed by someone.  If that had been someone I didn't know so well and trust completely, it would have been even more disastrous.

 Now, just like having a panic attack...this doesn't kill you, but this does cause a much bigger problem than having the symptoms/sensations of a panic attack that once resolved you can go about your "business" relatively easily.

 Since my fear...the thought of public embarrassment is the big issue and it has proven itself multiple times (even at home), how do you deal with that cognitively? 

 My doctors (and specialists) haven't found anything truly wrong with my lower GI tract.  They say it is anxiety induced and the only way to stop it is to eliminate the anxiety.  This is after MANY exhaustive and expensive tests and trials of medications which had no affect without causing a Crohn's episode by "stopping me up".

In the following "experiment" (basically a visual one since I don't expect anyone to actually do this.  Your imagination is plenty good to get my point)  I'm not trying to be a "smart-a** here, but I wanted you to truly imagine living this scenario to give you an idea of what I am trying to figure out how to deal with so I can progress.
 
If you want to try an little experiment to know what it feels like, take a fast acting laxative and then get in your car or a bus or subway making sure you are with other people and go to a store that is about 20 minutes to an hour away.  Then go in that store and start shopping for about an hour.  Now if you can hold it in, in the first place until you can reach a bathroom, you are lucky. If you took a good laxative, you won't be able to do that.  Then see what it is like have your anxiety or panic level raise with your normal symptoms plus this added issue.  That is what I am trying to figure out how to deal with here.

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