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Christmas Parties

Yep, later swifted to 24 packs just to make sure i have enough. Sometimes, when i don't plan well, i used to go dry on Sundays (no liquor sales here on Sundays) but sometimes the i will be too irritable and end up in a Bar. Later i came to know only alcoholics experience this craving once we take that first drink. Never happens in an ordinary drinkers. But then the obsession takes us back to the first drink......
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Day 1 - again!

Even considered being an alcoholic? Alcoholism is a disease: mental, physical and spiritual and emotional. Can't keep away from it and once we take the first drink, we are off to the races. When not drinking we are miserable and emotionally bankrupt.
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Day 1 - again!

Cathy,
  That is wonderful to know you are attending AA meetings. Hopefully people hooked you with a Big Book and you have started studying the book. Unfortunately modern day meetings don't focus on the solution. Also, see if you find a sponsor who understands the program and just not totally relies on going to meetings. Dr. Silkworth talks about a psychic change and in AA they call it spiritual awakening by working the12 steps of AA.
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New Year Resolutions

hey leane. i am an alcoholic, cutting down didn't help. just wanted to see how you are keeping up your new year resolution. if you are not able to control the amount of alcohol you put your body, we would like to hear from you.
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Month 5 and feeling kinda down

i attended my wildest new years party in my life. Lot of drinking but i was able to enjoy every moment without putting any liquid into my body. I owe this to the program of AA and some extent the fellowship of AA because they supported me initially and gave me a new life. Life has a new meaning like the big book says. And its our responsibility to carry that message to other alcoholics. Please google the book Alcoholics Anonymous and start reading from left to right and see how AA came to life. There is preface, forwards..Dr. opinion, Bills story, There is a solution, More about alcoholism, We agnostics (if you are struggling with GOD), How it works, Into Action, Working with others, Family afterwards, For Employees and Vision for you. And tonnes of other stories to help you identify with alcoholism and see how they recovered.
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Myth or Fact?

It is true that Alcoholism is not determined by how often people drink but whether or not they can control their drinking once they start. They are talking about the physical craving that kicks in once they put the 1st drink in there body. But then there is also the mental obsession. The insanity when it comes to taking the first drink. They usually convince themselves that it going to be better this time. And in forced sobriety they are restless, irritable and discontent.
 
That is the reason "just don't drink and go to meetings" does not work for the alcoholics. 
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New Year Resolutions

Yes, i am an alcoholic and had to put down the drink. But always feared that i will pick back, but not anymore. You can do yourself a big favor by visiting Alcoholics Anonymous web-site and read the book called Alcoholics anonymous on-line and see if you can identify yourself with all the stories in the book.
 
 
"If, when you honestly want to, you find you cannot quit entirely, or if when drinking, you have little control over the amount you take, you are probably alcoholic. If that be the case, you may be suffering from an illness which only a spiritual experience will conquer."

And appendix II of the book talks about what they mean by spiritual experience/awakening.
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New to the group.

if you take antebuse and still drink, (an alcoholic will definitely drink) there could be severe ramifications. The person who consumes alcohol after taking the pill, may even die. So, if you think you have an obsession of the mind, you should be careful.
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New to the group.

AA terms Alcoholism as a 3 fold illness. Obsession of the mind (mean we decide to quit drink in the morning but later in the evening we come up with some reason to drink and we push the decision to the next day) that forces you to take the first drink and then the phenomenon of craving. Once you put that first drink, you can't control the amount of drinks you take. Then when not drinking we are restless irritable and discontented.
 
The only solution is a spiritual one. Antebuse is a fear based solution. But alcoholics it does not work. We ignore the danger and try what happens when we take a drink. I know a woman who was on antebuse, on her last binge, she was constantly looking in the mirror to see if she had any allergies while she was drinking wine after being on pill for a week. She ended up in a hospital. Luckily she survived. 

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Negative Thought Patterns

Be Unclutched

You can do a small exercise. For ten minutes sit silently and observe the thoughts that arise in your mind. Don’t try to control or stop thinking. Just be silent and witness the thoughts coming. The moment a thought comes quickly write it down on paper. At the end of ten minutes read out whatever is written. You will see that it’s a mad man’s diary. There is utter chaos. There is no connection between the previous thought and the next one. All the thoughts are un-clutched and unconnected. Only when you write down your thoughts you come to know that the thoughts have no real connection. You may be thinking about having a cup of coffee and the next moment you may think about some office work which is pending. There is no real connection between having a cup of tea and the office work. Both are independent events. Even if there are two consecutive thoughts about the same event the thoughts are unconnected as there is no continuity. There exists a silent gap between these thoughts of which one is not aware.

The thoughts by their very nature are un-clutched. The problem starts when we start connecting these thoughts. When these independent and unconnected thoughts are linked up, we create illusions of pleasure or pain based on the nature of thoughts that we choose to link -up. This is a play of the mind that is constantly happening within us.

For example; you might have eaten ice cream ten years ago, you might have eaten ice cream seven years ago and you might have eaten ice cream two years ago and you might have eaten ice cream yesterday. All these experiences might have been very pleasurable for you. You might have enjoyed the ice cream on each of that occasion. The trouble starts when these experiences are connected and an imaginary shaft or an understanding is created that eating ice cream makes you happy. But sometime in the future eating ice cream may not be as enjoyable as on the earlier occasions. Even if you don’t enjoy the ice cream you will make yourself believe that you like the ice cream. Because you have got into the habit of connecting the thoughts; you unconsciously start accepting that you enjoy ice cream. Here the imaginary joy is one aspect of the illusion while the other is the recording of the false emotion deep within you. Similarly so many such incidents and thoughts are connected and recorded as illusions rather than as independent moments of pain or pleasure.

Similar is the case with painful experiences. The pain which you experienced ten years ago, the pain which you experiences seven years ago, the pain which you experienced three years ago and the pain which you experienced yesterday are independent events. There is no connection between these events. But through connecting events of similar nature you are creating a shaft that gives you the feeling of prolonged agony. This will leave you feeling that your life has been miserable and painful all along. Similarly connecting all the pleasurable experiences in your life gives you the feeling that that your life is pleasure.

But actually neither of it is true. Your life is neither pleasure nor pain because the very process of connecting these events is a mistake. The idea that the thoughts are connected is a misconception. Ironically we don’t connect all the thoughts. We only connect those that we remember and create the shaft. It is similar to how a bouquet is created by picking just a few flowers from a garden.

When we create the shaft we suffer. If you have created a shaft of pleasure we try to extend it because you want to experience the same pleasure again. But if you have created a shaft of pain then you try to break it because you want to avoid the pain. You can neither extend the shaft nor break it because it never existed in the first place. The shaft itself is a myth.

All your experiences are indepen